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Dan Sawyer

 

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Studio City, California, USA
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 6:13 pm    
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Could this thing be any good?

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Gerald Ross


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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 6:19 pm    
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How do you slant?

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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 6:22 pm    
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How do you slant?
Simple. Just add pedals.

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Jeff Au Hoy


From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 6:36 pm    
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Nothing wrong with chicken wing elbow, ala Billy Hew Len.
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J Hill

 

From:
Colorado, USA
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 7:31 pm    
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How do you slant?
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You just turn the guitar in the appropriate direction, silly.
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Travis Bernhardt

 

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Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 7:51 pm    
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Maybe it pivots...

-Travis
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George Keoki Lake


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Edmonton, AB., Canada
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 9:04 pm    
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About all they are good for is to assist those with arthritis who have difficulty holding a bar. Variations of this gimmick have been around for the past 40 years.
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Gerald Ross


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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 9:39 pm    
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It would be interesting to give this item a try just to see how much energy we expend holding a conventional bullet bar.

Maybe it would free you up to be more musical, maybe your vibrato would improve, maybe your intonation as well. There is the wimp factor or training wheel feelings you would have to overcome though.

Maybe we shouldn't discount it so quickly (besides the slanting issue).


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[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 27 February 2005 at 09:40 PM.]

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Michael Johnstone


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Sylmar,Ca. USA
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 11:34 pm    
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Actually that would probably come in real handy for an aquaintance of mine named Ron Sexton. He was a world class fingerstyle guitarist until he lost his left hand index and middle fingers down to the first joint and the tip of his left thumb as well. I told him of others with worse disabilities who played steel masterfully,so I think I've talked him into finding out if he could transfer all the music he still has in his head to pedal steel.I shall hip him to this device - which could be a blessing. -MJ-
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C. Brattain


From:
Balch Springs, Texas, usa
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2005 4:45 am    
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It is made for people who have trouble holding the bar. It can be put in and taken out as needed. It is hard to slant but it does pivit. For some people it will be a God send. Chuck
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Andy Volk


From:
Boston, MA
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2005 5:55 am    
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I'm with Keoki. Wonderful for folks with disabilities but useless for most everyone else. I saw one bar about 10 years ago that you spun around with a rubber band so that when you raised the bar of the strings it would flip into position for a forward slant. Anything to avoid practicing!
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Rick Alexander


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Florida, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2005 7:25 am    
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Being a curious kind of guy, I got a Control Ring to check it out. It's like crutches - if you can walk you don't need them.
If you can hold the bar, be thankful. I certainly am. But for someone who can't hold the bar - whether due to arthritis, injury, nerve damage or diminished grip - it could mean the difference between playing or not playing.

So I would conclude that it's a very worthwhile device . .
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Ray Minich

 

From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2005 7:39 am    
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Just something to make another part of one's anatomy hurt.
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2005 8:58 am    
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I think Chuck Brattain should be praised for his efforts ...

First the Red Rajah, then the Black Phoenix, then the Zip City ... now this.

All to help facilitate steel playing ... for beginners, intermediates ,pros and folks with disabilities.

As for slants ... I spent the better part of 15 yrs learning to slant well enough to play every phrase written by Jerry Byrd ...

Got down right proficient at it too ... if I do say so myself ...

And ya know what ... I haven't thrown a reverse slant in 2 yrs ...

I discovered that I needed to learn how to make one note sound good ...

And I'm still tryin' ...




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Alan Kirk


From:
Paso Robles, CA, USA
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2005 10:10 am    
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For those of us who have suffered instrument-related injuries (a suprising number of musicians), this is a good idea, although not for playing with a dobro bar. But it has given me an idea for modifying a dobro bar.

To avoid instrument-related injuries, take frequent breaks and stretch often. Practicing or playing for hours and hours without taking breaks and stretching has ended many a career.

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