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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2005 5:29 pm    
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I've been on the hunt for along time ...

A25



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Russ Young


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Seattle, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2005 6:25 pm    
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HowardR


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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2005 7:05 pm    
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2005 7:09 pm    
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fer shor.

Gonna clean it up or dig the patina?
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Jeff Au Hoy


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Honolulu, Hawai'i
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2005 9:58 pm    
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2005 2:34 am    
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A great addition to the museum dude!
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Paul Arntson


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Washington, USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2005 6:57 am    
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That's Astounding!!!!
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Gerald Ross


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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2005 7:03 am    
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Will this inspire a long scale Dustpan?

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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2005 7:26 am    
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Jon ... I'm gonna clean that rascal up ... Big-time .

I wasn't ever a big fan of "Krinkle" ... but that's changed

Gerald ... a long scale Dustpan has been on my "Honey-Dew" list since late last summer.

So many cool things to learn & do ... so little time ...


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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield


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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2005 9:15 am    
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Very cool indeed!

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Ron Whitfield

 

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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2005 9:56 am    
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Great score Rick, perfect original condition!

Is that a hollow, or solid neck?

Any etched/stamped markings (generally on the end of the headstock), or tungsten wiring?

Where you able to learn it'd pedigree, or what porch it's been hiding under for all these decades?

Can't wait to hear your choice of tune to display it's obvious fine sound.

Congrats!
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2005 10:21 am    
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I didn't even email the seller till yesterday ... didn't ask any guestions ... just said Howdy.

I saw it the day it was listed ... and just watched ... hoping for the best.

Ron, it's post 1937 (pat. # on half-moons and arrow knob) ... thats all I know.

Certainly not the "Holy Grail" model ... but I'm "tickled pink"
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Bill Creller

 

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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2005 5:09 am    
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The autoparts stores around here have a paint stripper called "aircraft paint stripper" which will tear that wrinkle finish off big-time. It appears that the magnets and everything else got sprayed with the stuff. Do you think that's an original early paint? I know early frypans were painted with wrinkle paint. What are your plans for it?
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2005 6:10 am    
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What are your plans for it?


Bill, I don't know ... have to see it after she gets a "bath".

No doubt the magnets are gonna be turned into "mirrors" ...

And after seein' what you did for Bobby Ingano's frypan at the HSGA convention... man, I never saw anything so shiney and pretty ...

Thats in the back of my mind ...

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Mike Simpson

 

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Gilbert, Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2005 7:01 am    
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Rick,
the paint on this A25 looks like an original paint or a very old refin, Could it be original? Looking at the pics it looks like it could be.

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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2005 7:11 am    
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I'm sure it is the original paint .. standard "krinkle" pattern.

The seller said it was "filthy" ... but he was leary of cleaning it.

I ain't ...

Seems like alot of A25s were "krinkled" ...

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Andy Volk


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Boston, MA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2005 7:19 am    
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Now THAT's what you call patina. You could always bronze it, Rick!

Long scale frypans of any kind are few and far between. Glad your wish came true. I've never seen that particular finish before but it reminds me of Ralph Kolsiana's bronze paint job on frypan #4. He used automotive lacquer!
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Mike Simpson

 

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Gilbert, Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2005 8:32 am    
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Rick,
If the paint is original it would be an absolute shame to remove it. Remaging the pickup makes functional sense though.

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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2005 9:25 am    
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I've never seen that particular finish before


Andy, here's my 1938 D14 (D7) ... black krinkle on the cast aluminum body ... and bakelite necks.



I've seen white/cream and that copperish color also. Here's the A25 ...

Frypans and Model 59s got "krinkled" ... the black looks the best.

I had a heck of a time getting that D14 to sound good ... turned out it was the krinkle paint under the bridge ... stifflin' the transfer. Its gone now ... but just from under the bridges.

Mike, I agree ... but Bill Creller has a way of "implating" things in my brain ... he's like Mr. Subliminal ...

The ultra fine look of a polished aluminum frypan ... phewwwwwww

If you would have seen Bobby I.'s pan after Bill worked his magic ... you'd be thinking 'bout it too ...

I'm sure that I'll leave it as it is ... just cleaner .

But the magnets are gettin' refinished ... then remaged (of course).

They deserve to have a mirror finish ...

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Bill Creller

 

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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2005 8:16 pm    
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Rick, that was my frypan, not Bobby's. I let him use it so that he wouldn't have to lug his to the convention. He likes the solid neck type anyway. He says they have more sustain (??)
BILL
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 4 Feb 2005 4:29 am    
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In the immortal words of Johnny Carson:

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I did not know that


I musta been in some sorta Trance up there ...
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HowardR


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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
Post  Posted 4 Feb 2005 4:39 am    
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2005 5:17 pm    
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In the immortal words of Ferris Bueller:

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It is so choice, if you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up


Here's the quick breakdown:

25.5" scale ...

Chromed brass nut and bridge ...

Original paint (took off all the hardware ... you could see the original blondish krinkle).

Gave her a bath ... cleaned up nice

The output jack "damage repair" was factory done ... no damage ... just a miss drilled 1/4" jack port.

The magnets are nice and strong for their age (the good cobalt steel) ... they'll be stronger tomorrow.

Not alot of rust ... certainly not enough to warrent any work. The film of lacquer/varnish will buff right off ...leavin' "shiny shoes"

The coil reads 0.933 K ohms ... alittle low ... but I don't think there is a short ... its plenty loud as is.

500K volume pot .. it's history

Now the oddity (well maybe not that odd) ...

The neck and pan is completely filled with a black resinous material ...

I had the exact same stuff in my Model 59 ... so I know its factory issue.

It has no smell until you break off a piece ... then the smell of Creosote is very strong.

I had to break big chunks out of my Model 59 to get to the pots (to change out) ... and ended up having to seal the "wounds" with silicon ... cause the smell was permeating everything.

I was more careful with the A25 ... didn't break off any chips ... no smell

It completely fills the neck ... up to where the slots start ... and it is so packed into the pan area ... just enough room for the pickup assembly, one pot and the jack.

I'll take full pictures tomorrow as I put it all back together.

What a treat

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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield


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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2005 5:01 pm    
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All in a day's work ...








Here's that creosote stuff ...









How does it sound ... there is somethin' definitely goin' on with that 25.5" scale ...

How does it play ... expect my next project to be a 25.5" Dustpan with slotted headstock ...

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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2005 5:05 pm    
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That's actually kind of a kickass look, the gleaming chrome against the old krinkle. Mean looking music machine.
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