shobuds Who plays them?? Are they extinct?

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 28 May 2005 3:02 pm

Also I'd like to hear of the number of solid gold Industry Steel Guitar Hits that were played on Sho~Buds without nut rollers.

Probably all of Buddy's Emmons and Charleton's early 60s stuff to start with.

I'd say they're as "Sho~Bud" as the later "different design twice a year" "real" Sho~Buds.. Maybe even moreso..

Like I said, of all the Sho~Buds I've seen, not more than 2 of them were the same mechanically, and the ones that were were ProIIIs. Even they came with small or large pedals, wood or aluminum necks..

Lots of questions for the "purist"...

I'm sure enjoying my '69-'70 Professional Marrs over my PIII in every respect. Even a few thousand gigs ago when it was "new".

EJL

Billy Carr · Post by **Billy Carr** » 29 May 2005 12:47 am

Sho-Bud guitars have outlasted several brands over the years. 20 years from now I wonder how many brands will still be on the market like Sho-Bud has. Same way with the Emmons guitars. Used to be you could find a player with the"Sho-Bud" sound or "The Emmons" sound. Nowadays, unless your looking at the guitar itself while it's being played it's usually hard to tell what kind of guitar your hearing. Many of the true steel guitar sounds from different steels are buried in effects. Don't anyone take it the wrong way about using effects to get a better tone or sound. I'm just saying that a guitars original sound (amp & guitar w/o effects) changes when effects are added. If I want the old "Sho-Bud" sound then I usually just plug one into an amp and play it. What I would like to see is for someone to build guitars that are based on the beautiful cabinets with the designs similiar to the old Sho-Buds but have the up to date undercarriages.

Neil Lang · Post by **Neil Lang** » 29 May 2005 5:36 pm

Sho-Bud Rules!! (FIRST Emmons inspired Steel)!!

Neil

Bob Carlucci · Post by **Bob Carlucci** » 30 May 2005 3:48 am

First part of this post has been edited,because I am a quick tempered "hothead" and sometimes think everyone in the world hates me.. persecution complex!

Just for the record, I am NOT a negative BUD hater.. I LOVE them.. they just don't work for everyone.

Many of us have had problems keeping them in tune.. Not everyone of course, but many of us. The forumite that bought my MSA and LOVES it told me over the phone, "I've never met a BUD I could keep in tune"...

If this were an uncommon problem, it would not even be dicussed much on this forum.. I've seen too many posts, and have had too much personal experience with Buds to Know that indeed a certain percentage of Sho Bud steels DO have tuning stability issues.

Not all... but some. I keep seeing guys defending all BUDS citing player error, improper adjustment, etc, etc, but I don't buy it.. SOME BUDS have trouble keeping tune.... Does that make them bad??
Certainly not.. can they be fixed? of course.. For some of us that love Sho Buds for the look, sound, and playability, the tuning issues do outweigh the desirable traits.
This was the gist of my thread about what steels players disliked.
Not every steel works for every player. My thread was NOT designed to be a negative rant fest, and it did not turn out that way. My threads are designed to stimulate debate.
THAT is my intention here, and if some folks read it as being negative, I will apologize and say again that it was not my intention.
Boy I really seem to apologize a lot around here!!..
For a nice guy I sure do make a lot of enemies don't I??

... bob<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Bob Carlucci on 03 June 2005 at 04:18 AM.]</p></FONT>

Neil Lang · Post by **Neil Lang** » 30 May 2005 6:26 am

Hey Guys,

This Forum is a GREAT place to BS & get REAL! I LOVE Sho-Buds & play & Collect them. Have played and owned ALL types makes & models and colors of them! I don't pretend to be an "expert" on them but here is what I have found.
(Most), of my rack & barrel guitars DO have tuning stability issues. I played a fingertip model for years & found it to be much more reliable to stay in tune, (minor issues on occation)! I have found the later models (narrow pedal, & stub keyhead) to be VERY reliable, for ME! I LOVE'EM ALL however, I use the later model Super Pro and Pro II I have, out on the jobs we play!
The first one I owned was a "permanent" model but was young and foolish (and poor)and sold the guitar about two years later, to buy the fingertip model. I have a HUGE love of ALL steel guitars but just don't have all the Sho-Buds I want yet.

Neil

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 30 May 2005 6:59 am

Thanks, Bobbe. I went searching on the forum and found all that I needed regarding the Super Pro II. What a beautiful guitar, and built to "military" specs! Someday ...

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 30 May 2005 9:25 am

Bob C. you are far from my Enemy pal; I think your one cool dude man and Love to hear your passion for the instrument, as it leaks through with every post you make my Brother.
I think all of your intensions, are for the good sake of the Steel guitar; so you keep on keepin' on pal....you'da Man.
Ricky

Bob Carlucci · Post by **Bob Carlucci** » 30 May 2005 10:28 am

Ricky.. ANYBODY who plays a BUD is my enemy!!

..........

actually... I'm justjealous.... What I really want is a guitar like your ProII or Gary Morse's Pro II... One of these days I WILL find the Bud I am looking for... a VERY stable S 10 that will drop the 3rd down a full tone.. Its out there waiting with my name on it.... We'll hook up some day.

TOO many guys have had great luck keeping thier Buds in tune.. I'll find one that does for me too ... bob