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Darrell Criswell · Post by **Darrell Criswell** » 10 Apr 2011 5:57 pm

Well I am not so old I need to complain about the music, although I didn't care much for it, but I am old enough that I need somebody to explain to me why artists like Zack Brown and others always wear watch caps (at least that's what they used to call them, I think they may call them skull caps now, not sure) all the time. We used to wear those only when we worked outside in subzero conditions.

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 10 Apr 2011 9:31 pm

Darrell,Can understand what you mean about the caps, BUT [just my opinion] The absolute DUMBEST thing to me is to see these nuts wearing baseball caps backwards.Are they that dense not to know the bill on a cap is for shading their eyes not the back of their heads.Or maybe they would perfer cataracts instead of a redneck. STUPID,STUPID,STUPID, LOOKING.

YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Dave Hopping · Post by **Dave Hopping** » 11 Apr 2011 7:56 am

Charles Davidson wrote:Darrell,Can understand what you mean about the caps, BUT [just my opinion] The absolute DUMBEST thing to me is to see these nuts wearing baseball caps backwards.Are they that dense not to know the bill on a cap is for shading their eyes not the back of their heads.Or maybe they would perfer cataracts instead of a redneck. STUPID,STUPID,STUPID, LOOKING. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Some of the uber-hip have taken to wearing ball caps sideways.Perhaps there is something about inner-city sunlight(or language?) that causes burned ears.

LJ Eiffert · Post by **LJ Eiffert** » 12 Apr 2011 10:56 am

Come on in.You guys are so far off base about the Artist & Music that that's why we are where we are with Country Music & Radio Stations with frog jocks and the off the road major cities who cut a deal to make MONEY off of performing with a fire department permit. Them Rockers who are Country Music Business- Men & Women are Pigeon pooping all the way to the bank thanks to people like you who?, who keep them alive by making crazy statements like the UPS next day air box for free.

Change is good if you have some in your pocket.

Just enjoy what steel guitar sounds you get to get for free on TV from them rockers.

Leo J.Eiffert,Jr.& his Pigeon Band with the Crawfish Band.

Leigh Howell · Post by **Leigh Howell** » 13 Apr 2011 12:27 pm

The thing that gets me so frustrated is the fact that, They call Pop music country! I like some Pop music. I like Old standards, like, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Bobby Darin, Sammy Davis Jr. etc. I even enjoy Mario Lanza occasionally. But Classic country is in a catagory by itself, so why dont they leave it that way. To promote a show as country awards, and then feature mostly pop,or rock artists is INMHO very sad, to say the least!

LJ Eiffert · Post by **LJ Eiffert** » 15 Apr 2011 9:51 am

The(acw&m) ACM is and was a Hollywood neighborhood showcase from the get go thanks to all the California Musicians & Night Clubs call Country.Now,with it in Vegas it's til the sames with everything in the pot and anything to make money to keep it alive. I'm just as heart broke about this mess as you and the world about the real deal called Country Music & Artist.But, it is what it is.

Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. & his Pigeons Band with Crawfish Band.

Gary Preston · Post by **Gary Preston** » 17 Apr 2011 10:40 am

Why cant it be country with steel guitar etc, or rock and roll with their guitars ? The way i see it is this . If you want to be a country singer with a country band then be country ! If you want to be a rock and roller then be that ! It seems that some of these people are confused about what they want to be to me ! Yes i know some of us may be ''old fashioned '' but be that as it may ! I know we all have ideas and thats fine ,the way it will always be !

LJ Eiffert · Post by **LJ Eiffert** » 18 Apr 2011 7:22 am

It's easy to understand about this matter and why it is what it is. The one's with the most Money controlls the table.It's a money making Country/Rock N Roll with Hollywood in Las Vegas turn table in Nashvilles hands with all kinds of outsiders-business people paying the way of what you get on Radio/TV and them concerns around the world.To see this neighborhood outfit from 1965 ACM, (acw&m) us musicians & Club owners paid for to build this that has so many people being crazy over it today is great and fun for (The Truth) me. To this new world board of old dogs letting new dogs run it like my lifetime membership is nothing is about as respectful as anyone will get out of this. I can feel for all you musicians who feel like you've been used and abuse from what you really would like to hear,but,it's out of the cards.Just like my book is, " Who Used Who ", My Memories.By Leo J.Eiffert,Jr.. When I get the right money for it then everybody can buy it.Sincerely in Music,Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. @ P.O.Box 5412,Buena Park,California.90620-5412

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 18 Apr 2011 9:21 am

No disrespect meant, but the artist you like are older, gone & can't sing as well.
Time marches on!

Gary Preston · Post by **Gary Preston** » 18 Apr 2011 1:08 pm

If this is the case Theresa then lets call the music country rock or just rock !Take away anything that even looks country if thats what the new singers want to do . Then lets not have a country awards show just call it whatever you want because it isn't country for sure . As you already said the real country singers are almost gone ! Yeah i know there are people that still like the ''GOOD '' country music . But then again maybe we are a dying breed ! It's hard for me to believe there isn't a venue for real country music ! As i said before these new singers that call themselves country artist will not get any of my hard earned money . Yes i know someone will come back and say ''then don't buy their music '' If you read this you can see i have said this already !

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 18 Apr 2011 2:53 pm

Gary,
Those artist like George Strait, Alan Jackson, Easton Corbin, Craig Campbell,Luke Bryan, Lee Ann Womack, Reba and others are country. They are country artist.

It's not fair for you to lump them in with artist you consider are not country.
We can all call it country or not. It doesn't change anything. People still buy and listen to what they like. It's always been that way.

You get tired of todays country, being called country. The same can be said of you guys saying it isn't country.

I like music if it's good and I listen to a song before I judge it, no matter who it is.

Gary Preston · Post by **Gary Preston** » 18 Apr 2011 6:03 pm

It goes without saying that the country artist you mentioned are country ! I may be mistaken but i didn't see Alan Jacksons name anywhere and there are others like him that didn't make the cut so to speak . I would never put any of the artist you mentioned in the same category as the so called country artist that were on the show . I suppose i better shut up about this ,i think others have shared their thoughts already ,and for the most part they agree with me . '' Right or wrong '' $:\$

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 18 Apr 2011 6:12 pm

The target demographic for country radio music is young women. They are the ones who buy more of it than anyone else, who go to the concerts and sing along. Why is it any surprise that us old musicians can't relate to the music?

Why do you even bother listening to it? I don't. I don't care if they call it country or not because I'm not listening. The music that I like is called "classic country" now, or "Americana". That's fine with me. I like the classics, and I'm an American.

Will Houston · Post by **Will Houston** » 18 Apr 2011 6:20 pm

Thank you b0b, you hit the nail right on the head.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 19 Apr 2011 4:38 am

"Right or Wrong" is a great classic country song!

I love some classic country & some modern country and "I'm an American"!

Gary Preston · Post by **Gary Preston** » 19 Apr 2011 4:40 am

You hit the ball out of the park b0b ,thanks .

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 20 Apr 2011 6:26 am

The target demographic for country radio music is young women. They are the ones who buy more of it than anyone else, who go to the concerts and sing along. Why is it any surprise that us old musicians can't relate to the music?

True, but I can relate to young women….

Tracy Sheehan · Post by **Tracy Sheehan** » 20 Apr 2011 11:20 am

Altho i have played some country music on steel to make a living my all time favorite music is a violin in a good classical violinist hands.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 20 Apr 2011 11:54 am

I can relate to young women, too! I do buy music, guess I don't fit into your demographics.

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 20 Apr 2011 2:02 pm

Things will come back around, but probably not in the years I have left.

I think they should use more Theremins.

Tracy Sheehan · Post by **Tracy Sheehan** » 20 Apr 2011 3:32 pm

It is not only country music. Even several years ago Farnk Sinatra ask Dean Martin if he thought music would ever make a come back.

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 20 Apr 2011 8:45 pm

Gary,Let them call it country [this new whatever]They have every right to be wrong.

YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

LJ Eiffert · Post by **LJ Eiffert** » 21 Apr 2011 8:54 am

Gary,You are not wrong nor are you right.No matter how you cut the cake,it's called music-Business from the heads of New York,Nashville to Los Angeles.If today was the day calling Country Music Country than my old neighbor " Fats Domino " from the 9th ward of New Orleans,Louisiana is a true Country Artist. This cross over thing has been and will always be just like " Otis Redding " sitting on the dock of the bay and waiting for CCR to be an Eagle.So,if Plumrose called Carl Budding ham cheese with Gold N Soft in Venture,Fisher Boy would be like Mike Tyson. It's all chicken feed to fight over Pigeons corn.The next time I'm in Bakersfield at Trout's I'm gonna feel like I'm at the Crystal Palace with my old friends Merle & Buck and let the red head sing me back home. Sincerely in Music,Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. who is a No Body to anybody.

Keep on smiling.

Kenny Foy · Post by **Kenny Foy** » 23 Apr 2011 6:14 pm

You GO b0b!

LJ Eiffert · Post by **LJ Eiffert** » 26 Apr 2011 7:22 pm

Kenny Foy said,You go Bob! So what part of " I'm An American " fits everybody on here? I'm in but from New Orleans,(coonass)Louisiana with a transplant to California with all styles of Music in me.Now,I get what's wrong with Country Music Today.To many young Artist who could care less about us old dogs who gave them the music to learn from and to turn it into what they think they came up with,a new sound. Not! All these new young Artist of today are shadows of others who they sound like that was here before them. Just like Bill & Fran Boyd and Gene Weed,Cliffie Stone,Eddie Dean and many other who this new board of young members of the ACM who are with a few old ones that would like all to forget about us old dog who gave them this show,or did we? Now what Country Music do you want to keep it like? If you're not happy with this mess of the ACM than write to Bob Romeo Chief Executive Officer & the Academy Of Country Music Staff, Teresa George,Lisa Lee,Tiffany Moon,Brooke Primero,Michelle Gobel,Erick Long,Erin Spahn,Michael Monaco,Michelle Zolezzi and if that don't work than I'm sure Jerry Hufford from Buck Owens Enterprises can Help you. Now if that don't work than go to Nashville and ask John Dorris,Clarence Spalding,Brandon Blackstock,Steve Dahl & Sarah Trahern to help you out as to why is Country Music the way it is. Sincerely in Country Music & all styles,Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. the " I'm A No Body ".

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