Taylor Swift

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 10 Feb 2010 8:07 am

I can understand Kris when he sings!

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 10 Feb 2010 8:21 am

Theresa, there may be a large gap between understanding the lyric and enjoying the singing. Keeping that in mind, might you agree then, that Kristofferson's singing is an acquired taste?

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 10 Feb 2010 3:57 pm

Well, I was going to stay out of this. JB Arnold changed my mind with a very good post.

I have always thought of Taylor as being LIKE Stevie Nicks,but in the "country" arena. Live, they both sing off key, and I have seen Nicks a few times live and she definitely sings "pitchy". They both sing a style that is surely out of the typical envelope we expect to hear. They are not the predictable singers we hear all the time,like Patty Loveless, Gretchen Wilson, Norah Jones, and to some extent, Mariah Carey, and many others that stay within the envelope (so to speak). Now I love Patty and the others I mention, and this is not meant to be a slam, but when I listen to them, I can usually predict where their voice is going and it's going to stay pretty close to the music being played and melody that we expect to hear. Stevie and Taylor both stray from that model. I really like Taylor, but admit, live she really needs help. And it does get worse when she is required to "act" or dance. Just let the girl stand and sing. Anyone see the CMT Crossroads episode with Taylor and Def Leppard? She (and they) were right on and awesome.

We'd probably be real surprised to find out that many of our Country Music Stars (some we percieve as Gods, as you can tell by some posts you see here on the forum from time to time) have pitch correctors in their systems on the road. Nobody's perfect ALL THE TIME.

I didn't see the Grammy's and am choosing not to look at the link posted here. If it's that bad, I don't need to see it.

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 10 Feb 2010 8:57 pm

Look at this. This was before pitch correction technology was available. It's so hard to listen to. I don't know how we stood it for so long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57lX-lu ... re=related

I remember standing in the wings at the Opry my first time to play there, and hearing this song done live, twenty feet away from me. It had a spirit about it that just told you that you were in the right place.

I don't get that feeling very much now days.

JB Arnold · Post by **JB Arnold** » 10 Feb 2010 11:31 pm

I quit getting excited about these live awards performances when I saw George Straight get screwed one year. I'm pretty sure it was the CMA's, the ones where they wouldn't George Jones sing his whole nominated song so he sat out and Alan Jackson cut his in half so he could sing half of Goerge's in protest. Anyway, early in the show they had George Straight up to sing and the 1st thing I noticed was he didn't have his guitar(odd in my experience.) Then they kicked off the song and he was off vocally the whole way thru. He fussed with his earpiece a time or two and was obviously bothered by something. Heck if they can throw off a pro like George, then anything's possible.

Now I know why these folks pretape these things.

JB

Chris Walke · Post by **Chris Walke** » 20 Feb 2010 10:12 am

The girl cannot sing in tune. I hope that changes with experience. The article linked previously contains this gem of an excuse:

“We had a volume problem in the ear. So, she was concerned that she wasn’t able to hear everything in the mix,” Borchetta said. “That’s just part of live TV. ... So you’re going to have difficulties on occasion. Unfortunately, on one of the biggest stages, we did have a technical issue. She couldn’t hear herself like she had in rehearsal.”

I guess that will also explain her out of tune singing on both songs she did when she hosted SNL, the CMAs, and her Letterman performance.

She has been singing out of tune on every "live" broadcast I've seen.

Franklin · Post by **Franklin** » 21 Feb 2010 7:11 am

I love Kristofferson's writing and don't mind that he is not a great singer.

PF

John Steele (deceased) · Post by **John Steele (deceased)** » 21 Feb 2010 1:22 pm

Paul, your playing is so nice... you must always have a really good monitor.

I gotta get one of those.

- John

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 21 Feb 2010 1:55 pm

JB Arnold wrote:I quit getting excited about these live awards performances when I saw George Straight get screwed one year. I'm pretty sure it was the CMA's, the ones where they wouldn't George Jones sing his whole nominated song so he sat out and Alan Jackson cut his in half so he could sing half of Goerge's in protest.

JB

Do you really believe that this was not scripted as part of the show?