Factory built steels,how many?

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 29 Jun 2001 6:51 am

Your right Ann, You should not have gotten credit for that.ha ha !You are working very hard for the steel community and should be commended,Maybe you should be the first woman in the Hall of Fame? You are devoting a lot of energy in a very helpful direction and it is being appreciated by ALL! Thankyou Ann,from me, Bobbe[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 30 June 2001 at 11:14 AM.]

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 29 Jun 2001 6:54 am

Bobbe Rest in Peace My friend. we're gonna miss you here on this Forum..........God be with You Always

John Sims · Post by **John Sims** » 29 Jun 2001 7:48 am

David,

Let's not forget Harley-Davidson...built in a woodshack out back. Now look at 'em. I'd rather still own a Harley today than a krotch rocket...Heck, I got 3 now. BTW my Carter sounds just fine to me.

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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 29 Jun 2001 9:19 am

Hey BC
Man I never even gave that a thought,,,you are probably right,,,message to Bobbe,,,dont bite off more than you can chew,, Oh what am I saying here??

Good luck...Im lucky BC I have these new bi focals when I look at my guitar I see two necks,,,,one looks samller than the other until I re-adjust some things look bigger too
I think I have been looking at other things too,,,and maybe I have been making "a BIG DEAL" out of something that I have that is really small,,,,,,the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder,,but I may as well face the facts,,,,Hey Im not supposed to be on here
gotta give BS credit though,,,,he gave me the inspiration to post again,
But I think Im getting under his skin a bit
It must be "true love" I'll give it a rest,,,Bobbe can use a rest as well,,,,I can tell by the many times he "edits" a post,,,time for a "hiatus" Grinnin and a picking or is it the other way around,,,???

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 29 Jun 2001 10:14 am

Jody, you never get under my skin,I have to respect someone that has been and done the things you have in your life.You do have my respect, if it matters to you.
I bet youv'e had a lot of fun in your lifetime!---------Memorys are what make a life, bet you have some good ones.
Bobbe (your friend!)

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 29 Jun 2001 10:26 am

Jody, also, I can see a lot of good and some greatness in this thread,reread all of it and I feel you'll edit you post when you see what happend here,and what human nature has done on it. It takes the intelligence you have to see it but you shouldn't have a speck of trouble doing so.The lesson doesnt have a lot to do with steel however it does apply to life. Is this a great forum or what?--------Bobbe (Now I can't figure out what Ann Fabian is saying)Looks more like the front page of the New York Times).Ann,I'm just picken' like always![This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 29 June 2001 at 11:30 AM.][This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 29 June 2001 at 12:58 PM.]

Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 29 Jun 2001 4:01 pm

Didn't Shot start Sho~Bud in his garage? Then,eventually,move to a "factory"?

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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 29 Jun 2001 5:57 pm

Smiley Look at my post,,I double posted & was told NOT to do that ever again,,,my report card will show my inefficiency on this
topic and may get time behind bars,,,for that
Thanks for "riding:" in on your white horse,
and saving me again......kimmo sabe ,[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 29 June 2001 at 07:04 PM.]

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 29 Jun 2001 5:59 pm

Smiley,,,
That says it all ,,,case closed..where were you before this started,?,,you could have put an end to a "painful" discussion,,,thank you.

Now I can go back to "transylvania" The good guys always get the girl at the end of the movie, You solved the case,,,karnak has spoken ,,,,,,Hi Yo Smiley Awaaaay,,,,,

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 30 Jun 2001 10:22 am

Hey Smilly, Every co. starts in a garage.And sometimes my car does,(and sometimes it doesn't).If my overhead keeps going up, My co. will end up in a garage,might not be that bad,less overhead,better prices? Hm------------

John Paul Jones · Post by **John Paul Jones** » 2 Jul 2001 3:51 pm

Bobbe, my dear friend.

You are a genius. You propose a question then play the players. Answering the
question is important to the players . But to you the answers are what’s
importance, The question is irrelevant.

It is a test of responses. It’s about human nature, right?

Your friend,
John Paul Jones

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 2 Jul 2001 4:04 pm

Jody,
I agree, this thread is not educational at all. Theresa[This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 02 July 2001 at 05:06 PM.]

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 2 Jul 2001 4:49 pm

Theresa,,,,
I thank you,,,it takes a woman to understand
thats why woman's lib is where it is at today

Men are okay,,,,,but the days of the "macho men" are over,,,look at Katy Couric,,,Jane Pauley,,etc,,next the women will take over baseball,,,I'd rather watch a woman play base ball than some big "boob" spittin chaw tobacco and "scratching" himself,,,,thanks for your support,,,,,I did this all by myself without my wife's help,,,uh oh here she comes,,,,I said it just like she told me.
Happy 4th of July....

Larry Miller · Post by **Larry Miller** » 2 Jul 2001 6:11 pm

Theresa, This thread may not be very educational...but , it IS very entertaining, afterall, it's got 64 replies, so far.

Larry[This message was edited by Larry Miller on 02 July 2001 at 07:18 PM.]

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 2 Jul 2001 7:24 pm

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Ray Jenkins · Post by **Ray Jenkins** » 3 Jul 2001 6:32 am

Bobbee,do you want me to send the snake in a cage or a box. A box you can just open up and let it run free in your store.Smiley promised to come in and feed it rats once a month.That would be educational, wouldn't it?

Ray

Ray Jenkins · Post by **Ray Jenkins** » 3 Jul 2001 8:47 am

Bobbee started this post to have some fun and a few laffs.Look at what preceeded his post,Cats,All kinds of guitars,riding lawn mowers,it was supposed to be a joke untill a few got "tacky" and started to complain about a problem that didn't exist.Sorry Bobbee,maybe it can get better now.

Ray

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Dan Tyack · Post by **Dan Tyack** » 5 Jul 2001 4:34 pm

Hey Jody, a Fender 1952 Telecaster was built in a factory, wasn't it? And you would be hard pressed to find a more valuable instrument today. Well maybe a 1954 Stratocaster. Wait, wasn't that built in a factory, as well?

Well there goes the theory about 'factory' guitars being somehow inferior....

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 5 Jul 2001 6:07 pm

Dan,,,If you saw Leo's original so called factory, yes your theory would apply,,but Leo's old factory was nothing but an oversized garage,,,maybe the size of a "Midas Muffler shop"

The original distribution was done by Radio Tel Equipment Co ,,,they were also mfg's of Rickenbacker instruments,,,Don & leo had an arrangement with F.C, Hall owner of Rickenbacker to warehouse & distribute from that location.

Leo's so called "factory" was not on the same premise's No it wasnt a garage,,but it wasnt a factory either,,,,lets say it was like Frankensteins laboratory,,,ya never know what Leo would create next.....did Dr. Frankenstein have a factory?? I dont know? I haven't seen or spoken to Bela Lugosi for years,,,ya know Bela Lugosi played a Telecaster,,,,but it had to be back in its case by "Dawn" or it would turn into a Gibson. Hope that answers your question...

Dan Tyack · Post by **Dan Tyack** » 5 Jul 2001 7:47 pm

Jody, thanks again for your historical (not not to mention hysterical) contributions.

I do have a question. To me as an outsider it seems a good deal of the genius of the Fender company was in coming up with designs that were manufacturable on a mass scale. Even though the Tele was designed in Frankenstein's workshop, the identical design was mass manufactured later in the 50s. Am I on track?

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Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 6 Jul 2001 8:04 am

Dan,,,,you are right on the track,,,there was a good quantity being produced later on
but never enough to satisfy the demand,although understand Fender was not shaking the world at that time.

I cannot or do not recall the amount of Telecasters produced daily,,,Iam not really an expert on production output etc,,,Forrest White (passed on 7 years ago) could have answered any and all questions re production.

I had so many telecasters slip through my fingers years ago as well as tweed amps,,all of us "wished we could have filled our garages with Tele"s and Strats and kept them till now,,but who knew back then.

Leo often asked me why the big fuss over all "those old guitars he manufactured back then,,,he would say,,,,"what is sam hill do they pay so much money for something that cost so little to manufacture when I could build a better guitar today) that was back in the late 70's at MusicMan.

He could never understand,,he was certainly never happy with his product and kept making changes every week or so,,,very inconsistent
always looking for a "better way"

Thanks for asking,,,wished it were 1950 again
I liked the 1950 Chevrolet convertibles then too,,,I had a 57 Belair convertible sold it years ago,,,wished I had it now with all those Fender guitars and amps back then....

Can tell you this,,,when Speedy ran the Fender warehouse in Tulsa,,,I would call him often during the day and as all the other salesman would "beg for merchandise" Speedy would say,,,,Hey guys,,,I dont build em ,,call Leo or Don (Randall) ask them what the deal is.

One day I must have called Speedy 10 times for help for a number of different dealers,,,just ask for a couple of guitars for each to satisfy the dealers...one day this is what happened.

I received a phone call and the voice on the other end said,,,,is this Jody??? I said yes it is,,,,,who is this...???? the voice on the other end answered.....this is HOWARD,,,
I said Howard who??? the voice replied,
HOWARD YOU LIKE TO KISS MY A ^%^&...and hung up....It was Speedy,,,he often did things like that..
A great player,,,person, friend, and he ran that Fender warehouse better than anyone ever
did,,,CU down the road PS when I would call Speedy back and ask him if it were he that called,,,I could hear him "snickering" in the backround,,,he was a funny guy,,he tried to disguise his "missouri drawl" but was not successfull trying to convice me it wasn't he that called....PS why does it read copyright below?? who the hell would steal this??? how'd that happen? all I have reserved is a bleacher seat to watch those lousy New York Mets,,,reserved for an idiot like me to sit through that they call baseball,,,UGH

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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 11 Jul 2001 7:36 pm