Was it just me or did the Stones sound mix

Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 6 Feb 2006 10:21 am

Charlie Watts played great and sounded good.

If you noticed there was a timer clock down on the floor with big red numbers so the band could see it. It was counting DOWN so I think that is where the jam came into play--just to give them a way to time the ending of their slot.

As for the playing--they sounded exactly like the Rolling Stones whether you like that or not. I personally dug the fact that they went out there and played LIVE!!!! What they did is what you got and that is the way it should always be done. That is tough no matter if you are the Stones or not.

Terry Edwards · Post by **Terry Edwards** » 6 Feb 2006 10:40 am

Well, they had a whole 20 minutes to install a stage and sound system. I can't understand it not being perfect!

The only one that sounded good was Aretha Franklin and I think she blew some windows out of Ford Arena!!

And, by the way, the Stones are supposed to sound bad. That's why they are the Stones!

Terry

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 6 Feb 2006 11:04 am

Your right. Its The Stones. They're raw live. Thats the way they always sounded. I love Charlie watt's drumming.

Post by **Dave Mudgett** » 6 Feb 2006 11:06 am

Yeah, the mix was not great. We all know how famous stadium shows are for audiophile quality sound.

But it was a real live performance, warts and all. I remember ZZ Top lip synching a couple of years ago. It sounded like the Stones to me. I agree, Bill - Charlie sounded great.

It was not Ashlee Simpson. It was the Super Bowl. What else do you want? I'm sorry, we're not going to see Ray Price on the Super Bowl in our lifetime. Everyone's loss, I agree, but c'est la vie.

Rick Garrett · Post by **Rick Garrett** » 6 Feb 2006 11:06 am

I thought they sounded just terrible. The mix was rotten and about halfway through you could finally hear just how sour the guitar sounded. Then there's "mick" to listen to after that. Thank goodness for the mute button. They should team up with Ashley Simpson and do a tour somewhere in the middle east.

Rick

Jim Peters · Post by **Jim Peters** » 6 Feb 2006 11:37 am

They played poorly, blew some cues, blew an ending, and the sound was bad. I found it embarassing. They are caracatures of what they once were. Another vote for the mute button! JP

Bill McCloskey · Post by **Bill McCloskey** » 6 Feb 2006 12:11 pm

"We all know how famous stadium shows are for audiophile quality sound."

No, I don't buy that. Sir Paul sounded great last year I thought (at least from a sound perspective - I never liked anything he did after the Beatles split).

Charley Adair · Post by **Charley Adair** » 6 Feb 2006 12:29 pm

The screamers on the field couldn't hear and didn't care what they sounded like. I sure thought Mick was saying "twy" on Satisfaction. Always thought it was "tRy"

Gavin Dunn · Post by **Gavin Dunn** » 6 Feb 2006 1:05 pm

I though it was great, it took them about half of each song to pull it togeather....and when they did, it rocked, very hard.
As for why not get an American band instead....I have a hard time thinking of a more American sounding band than The Stones, save of course for AC/DC.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 6 Feb 2006 1:51 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>quote:Yup, sound-wise, the average "bar-band" would eat 'em for lunch.

So...what does that mean, exactly? Would the "average bar band", have better gear, or a better soundman...or are you saying that the musicians would be better?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Geoff, I just said they sounded bad. Most people here agree. My niece went to see them last year in Virginia, and she said the same thing..."It was a fun show, but they didn't sound very good".

Yeah, yeah, I know they're rich and famous...even legendary. Yeah, they put on a big show, lotsa jumpin' around. But still, their sound has just never impressed me as it obviously has so many other millions of fans.

I take it you're a fan?

Good for you.

Drew Howard · Post by **Drew Howard** » 6 Feb 2006 3:15 pm

More Motown, less Stones. Every Stones song was the same tempo. Charlie Watts and Mick were at least consistent, Ronnie and Keef were not. I hear Aretha made a lot of noise about including Motown music in the Stupor Bowl show. Good for her.

Drew

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Geoff Brown · Post by **Geoff Brown** » 6 Feb 2006 3:23 pm

Donny, I see what you're saying. The halftime show was what it was. Some would judge that 20 minutes as tho it was the definitive moment in their careers.
Nothing wrong with not being impressed with the Stones

I like the band, depending on which incarnation we're talking about. The early stuff with Brian Jones is spotty for me. I think what they were doing with R&B covers was great, and at that time it wasn't being done by everybody else. I liked some of that.
For me, the band was at it's best when Mick Taylor came on board. Probably the best musician that band has ever had. A young, shy kid who was (and still is) a helluva player. Albums like Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers are great Stones records to me. The Gram Parsons influence at that time on Keef, and hard rockin' songs like Monkey Man and Can You Hear Me Knockin'...the mix of country-tinged, blues and straight-up R&R...not many bands could pull that off. They re-invented themselves during the Mick Taylor era. (when record companies still took risks with bands). I remember reading about the guys at Muscle Shoals not knowing what to expect before the sessions there, and how impressed they became once they started working with them.
For me...since Taylor's departure, it's been spotty again. Some of it's good, and some of it makes me wonder who I'm listening to.

kyle reid · Post by **kyle reid** » 6 Feb 2006 3:48 pm

I heard today, on a national sports station, that they did not get paid, did it for free! anyone hear the same?

Archie Nicol R.I.P. · Post by **Archie Nicol R.I.P.** » 6 Feb 2006 4:29 pm

I was a fan when Mick Taylor was on lead. Ronnie is too Keithy.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 6 Feb 2006 5:07 pm

They sounded good at Altamont. Haven't heard them since...

Dave Grafe · Post by **Dave Grafe** » 6 Feb 2006 5:36 pm

I know for a fact that the technical people on site really were the best in the country (if not the world), but with a huge stage to set up, countless mults to get plugged in, about two or twelve hundred things can possibly go wrong and it quickly becomes a matter of which things WILL go wrong. I imagine that due to the timeline the band got told to get started before the system or the crew was ready, thus the missing first words and twenty-odd bars before the guitars were in the mix, I was pleased that the video switcher had the right guitar player on camera almost all of the time during solos, that's gotta be a first! And yes, the missing word after "you make a dead man..." was most assuredly removed by the network, not omitted by Mr. Jagger.

Charlie Watts played great and sounded good

A drummer like Charlie can buy a whole lot of time for the rest of the sound to get dialed in and it was never more apparent than at this show. As for the guitar PLAYING, I'm glad it wasn't me that had to run up there and play my guitar in a big hurried rush, surrounded by people in a panic trying to stay on time, with no opportunity to even take a deep breath before it's "Music GO!" And do you really think they could even hear themselves play over the screaming kids?

Aretha had a good point about local talent, all those great acts from Detroit and all, but she's about the only one who still lives anywhere near the Motor City any more, the rest of them took their bucks and ditched long ago.[This message was edited by Dave Grafe on 06 February 2006 at 05:45 PM.]

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 6 Feb 2006 5:57 pm

Another outlook that's been bantered around -
Why The Rollings Stones?

DETROIT - MOTOWN - BLACK MUSIC

How many hundreds of great black acts and musicians have been launched from Detroit?

Or, on the lighter side, "Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels"?

Who in the h... picked The Rollings Stones?

Never cared much for the Stones, but "As Tears Go By", "Ruby Tuesday", and "Painted Black" were, and still are, among my favorite Stone's tunes. I guess, non-Stones in a way, as they're pretty mellow.

Just thought, some Detroit personna would have been more fitting for that half/time event.

Terry Edwards · Post by **Terry Edwards** » 6 Feb 2006 6:13 pm

I grew up in Detroit but I don't think Iggy & The Stooges would have worked. Bob Seger - maybe. How about Ted Nugent? - He could have shot some arrows at some stufffed deers while playing Cat Scratch Fever! MC-5 could have played Kick Out The Jams - that would have kept the sensors busy! Kid Rock - too country!!!

They don't call it Detroit Rock City for nothing.

Motown is the only music that could work for a "family show" and we only got to see a small piece of it. Too bad.

Terry

Steve Hinson · Post by **Steve Hinson** » 6 Feb 2006 7:16 pm

b0b...were you at the Altamont show?

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Tucker Jackson · Post by **Tucker Jackson** » 6 Feb 2006 9:16 pm

b0b... say it ain't so...

Bo Borland · Post by **Bo Borland** » 7 Feb 2006 12:05 am

I was wondering why only Charlie Watts has any grey hair.

Alvin Blaine · Post by **Alvin Blaine** » 7 Feb 2006 2:33 am

As for the censorship of the songs, apparently they set that up before the show.
Stones Censorship Story

Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 7 Feb 2006 7:13 am

I'll have to agree with Steve Hinson on this. I thought that "Get Your Ya's Ya's Out" was one of the worst live albums ever released when I first heard it a few decades back. But, in retrospect I now think it is one of the 'best' live albums ever released. That album and Wet Willie's Drippin' Wet album.

The Stones are the The Stones. The best rock and roll band, and they still use the basic Chuck Berry licks in many of their songs. I hope that I'm still rockin' in my '60's!.............and not in a chair.

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 7 Feb 2006 7:14 am

I think they just wanted to make sure that we knew they were playing live, because NOBODY would ever pre-record tracks that sounded that bad.

Wellllll....Ashlee Simpson??

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 7 Feb 2006 8:30 am

I loved it ! They just got up there and had good time playing some rock and roll.

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