The Palomino Bands

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 1 Nov 2004 9:08 pm

Yeah, girlfriends can be funny that way...

John Bechtel · Post by **John Bechtel** » 1 Nov 2004 10:14 pm

When I was in L.A. in ’70, Jay Dee worked the Palamino with Tony Booth. Jay Dee called me for a sit-down job in Phoenix, but; I had to decline because at the time I had to wait in L.A. for my wife to arrive from Korea. That would have been between Mar. and June ’70.

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Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 2 Nov 2004 12:42 am

Gene Brown, oh yeah that is you on the songwriting credit, how did I not notice that.
Red's albums from the 1960s are getting a budget reissue on the Sundazed label.
Unlike the Buck Owens reissues, there are no extra tracks or anything of the like.
They are basically well remastered budget sets which replicate the 1960s albums.

Gene, I write articles on Bakersfield related artists on the Rockabilly Hall Of Fame's (nicknamed the RAB HOF) Bakersfield Sound section, which isn't strictly about Bakersfield as I've done sections on Jim Pierce, Wynn Stewart's 1950s band the West Coast Playboys, etc and none of those guys were Bakersfield based.

However, they worked and influenced others that were and you would fall into that category as well.
I'll email you and when you get everything up and running we can add the link to the RAB HOF.
I reckon I know the Jerry Naylor track as well, I've been hoping that Sundazed put together a comp of cool Tower and Capitol singles. Fingers crossed, but I imagine the Tower/Capitol budget reissue series would have to be a success. So far we have reissues by Red Simpson, Dick Curless and Kay Adams, all very cool I might add.

Cal, why not post the stories.. Robbie Fulks always cracks me up with his, and yours have a similar vibe: http://robbiefulks.com/

Mike, thanks for your input as well, I didn't know there was a Burns sisters act.
I was expecting some posts on the Barn Dance, but I don't see Marty Rifkin, Jay Dee or some of the other guys from the last decade of the Pal' post here much anymore.

Tiny the bouncer, now there's a guy of legend. I've had someone tell me that he got that crossbow/arrow bolt in the eye. I kid you not.

Hey Jim, the Black Brothers played the Cowtown in one form or another over the years. Larry the guitarist was there more than Bobby at one point, then later Bobby was there more than Larry due to their various other ventures.
On the Black Brothers website there's a pic of Paul Franklin, Emmylou Harris, Larry Black and Linda Hargrove @ the Palomino Club circa 1970, although it's more likely the pic is from 1975-76 from forum feedback and Paul and Linda.

Cal, do a Pal' page if you can, if I ever get one up and running for the RAB HOF, I'll link it to yours.

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Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 2 Nov 2004 12:58 am

I think Jay Dee joined around Feb-March 1970, some sources say earlier, but I'm pretty sure he was still with Buck and that dude's touring (which is mainly why Jay Dee left) was very heavy.

I'm pretty sure Jay Dee agrees, I ran the March date past him and he thinks it was about right.
I don't think there was a steeler with the Booth Band before Jay Dee, and they'd been there for some months before he joined.

I don't suppose if you recall if Bobby Wayne or Al Bruno was the Booth Band guitarist at the time?

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 2 Nov 2004 4:34 am

March of 1970 was when Tex was just forming, and Al Bruno was the lead guitarist with Tony Booth. Tony had a broken leg at the time. Larry was on bass, Jay Dee on steel, Archie Francis on drums, Tony played acoustic. I don't recall if Earl Ball was on that band or not, since I was pretty focused on Jay Dee.

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Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 2 Nov 2004 7:02 am

Herb, Earl Ball had left for the job with Capitol Nashville in 1969, I think he replaced Larry Butler at the behest of Ken Nelson.

Apparently Glen D Hardin used to sit in with the Booth band on a semi-regular basis, at least before the gig with Elvis (which he scored in 1970) got too demanding.

Mike Winter · Post by **Mike Winter** » 2 Nov 2004 10:34 am

Jason -- It seems I remember Gene Davis playing at a place called The Alamo in San Diego from around 1969 or so through the mid seventies. Do you know whatever became of him? My mother used to go see him all the time and said he had a pretty good dance band.

Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 2 Nov 2004 12:22 pm

Mike, he would have been at the Nashville West by 1969.

After the Pal' 1959-1966, he was Roger Miller's bandleader 1966-67, then at the Corral Club 1967-68, the Nashville West 1968-1970, then the Alamo in 1970-72, although he did return there later in the 1970s.
So yes you were pretty close with that recollection.
Sorry to so that Gene passed away in 2001.

Wayne Franco · Post by **Wayne Franco** » 2 Nov 2004 2:08 pm

Does anyone remember Hag's place down the street from the Palamino. It was only there a little while. New Riders of the Purple Sage played there once.

Gene H. Brown · Post by **Gene H. Brown** » 2 Nov 2004 3:23 pm

Hi Jason,
Yes, please do send me whatever info you would like to and Thanks very much.
Gene

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Richard Bass · Post by **Richard Bass** » 2 Nov 2004 3:58 pm

Back in 1969, on the day Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, I was working with Dave Dudley and we worked Disneyland with the Pal band. The night before we worked the club. I remember Biff Adams and I believe Dennis Hromack, and Bobby wayne were in the band. Disney seemed to be a good place to watch a man walk on the moon. I also worked Hags but I can,t remember if it was with Dave or Faron. Dick Clark also had a club at the time that I think was called the VIP. Memories fade with time but the beer was cold.
Richard

Cal Sharp · Post by **Cal Sharp** » 2 Nov 2004 3:59 pm

Here are some pix: www.calsharp.com/music/Palomino.htm

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Ken Lang · Post by **Ken Lang** » 2 Nov 2004 6:16 pm

I remember Hag's place. The night we visited Hag and his band were playing. I was fresh off a lounge road gig and not yet back into country music. I didn't know at the time what I was seeing. Dang it.

Michael Johnstone · Post by **Michael Johnstone** » 2 Nov 2004 11:11 pm

Hag's Place on the corner of Victory and Lankershim was also once the Rag Doll where Snyder had the house band once upon a time and the piano player was Leon Russell. When I first got to town in the early 70s,I played there and I think it was called the Country Palace or something - then it became Filthy McNasty's - then FM Station which was a rock venue and I played there at that point(1984)with Buddy Hollywood. I drive by it every few days and it's now a Mexican disco. -MJ-

Jason Odd · Post by **Jason Odd** » 2 Nov 2004 11:44 pm

Richard, I have heard of you guys playing the moon landing gig, wasn't there a film crew as well?

The V.I.P. was around in 1969, the house band included forumite Dale Bennett with Al Bruno, Phil Baugh and Archie Fancis among others. The club folded, everyone got other gigs, Al and Archie reunited at the Pal' in 1970.
The funning thing is I think that Dale B. and Phil B. ended up at the Pal' in 1970 as part of Ray Price's band.

Cal, those pics look sharp, the Palomino Club ones are cool, but it's nice to see some good shots of pickers relaxing as well.

Leon did work for Snyder, he was also part of the Pal' band in 1962 with Snyder.
They recorded together a couple of years ago in Nashville for one of Leon's albums, so they're still at it.