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Thanks Dave, It does sound like a limiter. I think there's a little more "Quilter magic" going on there. I like it overall but had not really noticed that effect with the (old) brick-wall limiters I have used in the past. I have a PV Transtube Bandit with a "T-Dynamics" knob/function that is also similar but not nearly as good as the SB limiter.Dave Grafe wrote: That is an artifact of the limiter's attack time. If both gain and limiter are dimed the internal signal is huge so the limiter is performing extreme gain reduction in a very short time with each new note. The "click" is the brief part of that note that got through ahead of the limiter attack curve.
I doubt most would use the SB with the gain and limiter dimed and I wouldn't normally either. I just like to perform science experiments with new gadgets. Can't wait to try it out on the bandstand this week with a semi-loud group.
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I have been using this direct to our board with great results. My favorite setting is '65 voicing with FRFR enabled. It sounds clearest in my ears that way. Is there any reason not to choose that setting when running straight to the board rather than IR loader or is it personal preference? Thank you
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It's got enough power Scotty
I tried out the SB at a local blues jam last week to see if it had enough output to hold up on a bandstand. Short answer is Yes. I also wanted to A-B test it with my '65 DR non-RI which is my main indoor gig amp these days. I alternated powering its internal speaker with the DR tubes or the SB. The DR (22W) seemed to have a little more clean headroom but both were loud enought to keep up. I do realize "Deluxe Reverb" and "Clean Headroom" don't typically go together in the same sentence.
It's hard to draw a straight line comparision as my DR is plenty loud with V knob on 3, and I ran the SB Master V knob dimed using the Gain knob set as high as possible but still pretty clean. The SB gain control seems to get real hairy, real fast, in the last 15% of its range. I like that sound but more for 6-string or lap steel.
The jam backline is bass, drums and 2 DRRI amps, so the "throw-together band" always has at least 2 guitar players, some of them loud. The "band" plays 4 songs and then rotates to the next set of players. There's plenty of guitar slingers but I'm the only PSG so I play as much as I want to if I bring an amp. I sat out for two sets and let a lap steel and 6 stringer play the SB for a set while I listened further back in the club. I liked what I heard.
Definately a keeper. If I only played one axe on the gig (everything in PA), the SB would be a strong contender for my main amp, but I use both channels on my old Fenders for separate instruments. Saves a lot of knob twisting when I switch.
It's hard to draw a straight line comparision as my DR is plenty loud with V knob on 3, and I ran the SB Master V knob dimed using the Gain knob set as high as possible but still pretty clean. The SB gain control seems to get real hairy, real fast, in the last 15% of its range. I like that sound but more for 6-string or lap steel.
The jam backline is bass, drums and 2 DRRI amps, so the "throw-together band" always has at least 2 guitar players, some of them loud. The "band" plays 4 songs and then rotates to the next set of players. There's plenty of guitar slingers but I'm the only PSG so I play as much as I want to if I bring an amp. I sat out for two sets and let a lap steel and 6 stringer play the SB for a set while I listened further back in the club. I liked what I heard.
Definately a keeper. If I only played one axe on the gig (everything in PA), the SB would be a strong contender for my main amp, but I use both channels on my old Fenders for separate instruments. Saves a lot of knob twisting when I switch.
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just preference - use whichever of those settings sounds the best to you, in any given room on any given nightPaul Stauskas wrote:I have been using this direct to our board with great results. My favorite setting is '65 voicing with FRFR enabled. It sounds clearest in my ears that way. Is there any reason not to choose that setting when running straight to the board rather than IR loader or is it personal preference? Thank you

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Anyone know if there's any issue running the Line Out to the mic input on a Fishman Loudbox Mini? I've been playing thru it and it sounds great, but I wonder if a line level signal into a mic input is a problem? Any input appreciated I'm gonna try it at a gig tonight.
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I would be careful with that, the line out is hot enough to drive a larger amp via the power amp in/effects return, definitely line level with the Master dimed. The Loudbox Mini has two fixed-gain inputs, One each Line and Mic level signals.question is if you can pad the input of the Fishman enough, via inline buffer, resistor, or other gain/impedance matching device, to convert a line level to serve a Mic input. The other option is to barely open the SuperBlock Master to keep the level down., a touchy proposition but possible if you're careful all of the time not to bump it.