For All you "Barrel Tuning" Sho-Bud'ers

Neil Lang · Post by **Neil Lang** » 17 Jul 2005 3:47 pm

Ricky,

GREAT idea..........keep up the great work!!
John & I talked about some other improvements to older Buds. I have a friend who machines parts looking at a part to make, that fits in front of the baskets. Then use nylon nuts on stationary rods? I'll have to see if it works. If it does I'll put some pictures on a new thread.

Neil

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 17 Jul 2005 7:46 pm

Hey Neil; I'm not sure what your trying to accomplish, can you explain more? If your wanting to use nylon tuners for a rack and Barrel Sho-bud; by bypassing the barrel; All you need is a 1/8" shaft collar behind the rack on the rods that pull a finger that only has 1 change on it. That's already been done and it's real easy; you just take the barrel off and slip the shaft collar on the rod behind the rack and set screw it down to a rod that has threads at the finger end and nylon tuner on it and your good to go. But of course you can't do that on the rods that pull a finger twice.
But I'll tell you that the down-side is a stiffer pull.
Ricky

John Coop · Post by **John Coop** » 24 Jul 2005 7:50 pm

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Neil Lang · Post by **Neil Lang** » 12 Aug 2005 6:23 pm

Ricky & John,
I have a tool & die man working on some parts for changing a barrel system to a nylon tuning system. What I have in mind will only require new pull rods w/nylon tuners & one "pull Bar" with 10 set screws for each rack. I'll let you know if it works for me or not? I told him to take his time, so I don't know for sure when the parts will be ready to try? Thanks guys for all the GREAT work you do for the Old Sho-Buds!!!
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John Coop · Post by **John Coop** » 25 Aug 2005 10:35 pm

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Jackie Anderson · Post by **Jackie Anderson** » 3 Aug 2006 8:02 am

Ricky, I just noticed something in re-reading this thread: how will converting a single-pull rod to be tuned at the changer end with a nylon tuner stiffen the pull?

John Groover McDuffie · Post by **John Groover McDuffie** » 3 Aug 2006 8:36 am

Great idea!! It would be great to only have to carry one type of tuning tool in my seat. (and we all know how painful THAT can be!!)

My 10th string rod lost it's end cap several times on gigs. I got pretty adept at driving it back on by bonucing the rod (tuning end down) on the base of my mike stand (ad-hoc anvil). I finally had it brazed on there by Dave Borisoff (thanks, Dave) but the washer is long gone.

Dave Seddon · Post by **Dave Seddon** » 3 Aug 2006 8:56 am

On my old Sho-Bud which was R&B, I made a new set of rods from Stainless steel welding rods threaded one end and used the standard nylon tuners with Locktite threadlock. Never had any problems.
Dave.

Micky Byrne · Post by **Micky Byrne** » 3 Aug 2006 11:13 am

Hey Dave, I knew you were a dab hand on fixing things good. Maybe one day if you have the time, I'll come over to you and if you have spare bit...I know you gave me some, you can change a few pulls to my Carter uni. Still no news on my Sho-Bud, I don't want to hurry David Langdon, as he's been a little buisy. Cheers mate

Micky Byrne England www.mickybyurne.com

Micky Byrne · Post by **Micky Byrne** » 3 Aug 2006 11:16 am

I ment www.mickybyrne.com too many glasses of wine

Ben Elder · Post by **Ben Elder** » 3 Aug 2006 12:12 pm

Can anyone post/restore a pic of these assemblies (especially installed)? I have negligible mechanical reasoning skills and don't trust my minimal powers of technical visualization.