Carter Steel Guitars

Hook Moore · Post by **Hook Moore** » 16 Aug 2005 5:54 am

Logo beauty is also in the eye of the beholder. I like the Carter name and logo much better than the logo on many of the other new guitars. But then I never liked big mudflaps , fuzzy dice or bullet hole stickers on my cars either.
Hook

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Dick Wood · Post by **Dick Wood** » 16 Aug 2005 8:06 am

Owned three since 1995 and am considering a D-10 in the near future.Have gotten lots of compliments from other steel players on the tone.I pretty much echo all the positive statements everyone has made as to tuning,being well made etc.

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Ray Leroux · Post by **Ray Leroux** » 16 Aug 2005 11:57 am

I played the same homemade sgl 10 for 20 yrs 10 on the road the rest weekends. 9 yrs ago I bought a beautiful 12 universal wich shall go unnamed. Stuggled with it for 4 yrs, traded it for a boat. Spent 2 yrs in the interim looking for the guy I had sold my homemade to and bought it back and for the 3rd time in 20 yrs refurbished it. Two years ago I took the plunge and became a Carter owner. Sgl 10 dbl. I gigged with it for a month, sold the original and have been completely satisfied with all aspects of the carter. In fact the guitar is exciting to play.

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 16 Aug 2005 2:03 pm

I heard the same comments about tone and glad I ignored them.

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 16 Aug 2005 3:17 pm

I quite like the logo on my new Carter -- but I reckon the inlaid jobs on those flash lacquer Carters take a bit of beating!

Stephen Gambrell · Post by **Stephen Gambrell** » 16 Aug 2005 3:54 pm

I was working on an endorsement deal with Carter---then John heard me play...

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 16 Aug 2005 7:13 pm

I don't like logos on guitars.

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 16 Aug 2005 8:16 pm

I like mine, an SD-10.

My other Steels are vintage Emmons S-10 and D-10 .

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 16 Aug 2005 8:42 pm

Joey - I love the Car-Bud fretboards !@

Jack Francis · Post by **Jack Francis** » 17 Aug 2005 12:40 am

b0b...You don't like Logo's on guitars??

Are you trying to put Logo designers like me oughta biz????

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 17 Aug 2005 2:50 am

Joey; yours looks much like mine. I like the slim-line design.
One question: is that the stock pickup?
I have seen Starters that look more like yours, with the exposed pole pieces.
Mine looks like this:

(Boy is that dirty....)
Just curious; I know the Starter uses less expensive components, and I am not unhappy at all with the tone.[This message was edited by Charlie McDonald on 17 August 2005 at 03:56 AM.]

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 17 Aug 2005 2:55 am

B0b doesn't like logos? That's it, I'm taking mine off. Or maybe I'll design a 'Charlie' badge instead, except I can expect that to kill resale value.

Jack, I was contemplating going into competition with you. I've thought about submitting a new badge design to Carter, but from the above comments, I can hear it already: "We don't want tuners with good taste...." I'm sure they're happy with what works for them, but it's tempting.

Rex Thomas · Post by **Rex Thomas** » 17 Aug 2005 6:04 am

I don't like logos on steels either. [This message was edited by Rex Thomas on 18 August 2005 at 03:31 PM.]

Jack Francis · Post by **Jack Francis** » 17 Aug 2005 6:44 am

Charlie...we oughta split this up...one of us help Carter and the other bring some class to Peavey's image!

[This message was edited by Jack Francis on 17 August 2005 at 07:45 AM.]

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 17 Aug 2005 7:33 am

Jack, that Peavey thing--I wouldn't know where to start. It looks like the kind of lightning bolts I like to put on my Frankenelectros. The Peavey badge was dated as soon as it was avant garde. And I'll bet they're really attached to it.

Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 17 Aug 2005 11:42 am

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My guitar holds its own, cosmetically and I've come to appreciate the plain, low keyed logo. Elegance in simplicity.

Joseph Barcus · Post by **Joseph Barcus** » 17 Aug 2005 4:41 pm

I must have had a lemmon I was very un happy with mine got rid of it 2 yrs ago and never looked back

Tommy Detamore · Post by **Tommy Detamore** » 18 Aug 2005 4:12 am

I bought a used Carter (2001 model) about three years ago, partially out of curiosity, and partially because my ol' pal Bruce thought so highly of his. I had been buying and selling all sorts of steels (Sho Buds, Emmons PP's, A ZB, etc.) for a few years, just trying stuff out. When the Carter came along, it just did it for me. I sold everything else. Great playability, rock-solid stability, fat tone that is very even up and down and across the necks. I do a fair amount of recording with it and it just lays in a track extremely well. I know I'll probably get skewered for saying this but the tone of my Carter to me has characteristics of an Emmons as well as a Sho Bud. Think Emmons cut and bark with a bit of that woody Sho Bud low-mid "bloom"....

As for the logo, I can't see it very well from where I sit

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 18 Aug 2005 5:38 am

Jon - What happened to the Zebco attachment?

Lee

Nathan Delacretaz · Post by **Nathan Delacretaz** » 19 Aug 2005 10:17 am

Tommy, I'm interested in your assessment of the Carter, especially the remark about the woody, 'Bud-like "bloom"... [See my old post regarding my fascination with the mellower "transparent" sound]

Do you think a particular pickup figures into this woody sound, or is it more about the Carter's construction?

Pat Burns · Post by **Pat Burns** » 19 Aug 2005 12:18 pm

..Jon, since you're just using that Fender as an ironing board anyway, why not swap it to me for a real ironing board?..

Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 22 Aug 2005 9:31 pm

Tommy Detamore,

What pickups?

thx

bob

Tommy Detamore · Post by **Tommy Detamore** » 23 Aug 2005 4:44 am

Bob, it has XR-16's in it. They are the only humbuckers that have ever done anything for me. I fully expected to rip them out immediately. But they sound good enough to me to make it not worth the hum penalty of a single coil. Never thought I'd ever say that...!

Paul Brainard · Post by **Paul Brainard** » 23 Aug 2005 10:41 am

I have always felt that some of the Carters' tonal character is the result of their rolled neck design - it seems to me that it creates a resonating chamber almost along the lines of a hollow-body guitar, maybe it fattens & warms up the sound a bit.

Mark Lind-Hanson · Post by **Mark Lind-Hanson** » 23 Aug 2005 1:02 pm

I happen to like my Carter quite well (S10 Starter)- and lately have been coming along by leaps and bounds with technique as well-
I love the way it remains in tune & just remains in tune & remains in tune and I NEVER need worry over resetting the lever-pedal tunings. Well, almost never, close enogh. The only issue I ever really had with it was the volume level of the third string
(and I am still playing w/o a vol ped simply to get my chops in order- and will adapt better to use of the vol ped when I finally decide to pick up a Hilton-)- there just doesnt seem to be a lot of volume at the third string without compression or some type of sustain. But that is really the ONLY thing I have ever flet was odd about it. Now that I have moved from what was a terrible hotel situation to a decent apartment (and left behind my rap/"bass & drum" beating neighbors) I have had the chance to leave it set up a lont longer than before (firehazard- false alarms were always forcing me to tear it down & pack it up incase of making a run for it)-
What I can say about the ease of packing it from so much quick-in-a-hurry takedowns is it is simple and easy enough to do so, unhooking the pedals and putting all of it away CAN be done in about 40 seconds! Well, I hope I never need to be so rushed around it again... I am considering putting a few new pedals on it as opposed to a new custom-made-from-scratch instrument, but that decision is still years away from me yet. I'm glad it was available at the price it was or by now I would still be wondering just what it is like to BE a steel player! [Awfully enjoyable.]