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I do agree with the posters that ask for electronic submission.

www.PicoSong.com would be perfect for this project.
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The computer that I will be making the master on is not connected to the internet. Call me selfish, but it's much easier for me to deal with if each submission arrives separately with a physical CD and a printed, signed submission form. It greatly simplifies the process at this end.
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Jim Cohen wrote:b0b, FWIW, the word "scheme" is used differently in British English vs. American English, and does not have the nefarious connotation that we in the States associate with it. In fact, in the UK they talk about things like an "insurance scheme" (which is definitely not intended to mean "insurance scam"!). It just means "arrangement", nothing more or less.
I was about to say the same thing. In British English the word "scheme" just means "plan". The idea that a scheme is some sort of scullduggery is purely an American late 20th century useage. In England they talk of Pension Schemes and Health Insurance Schemes, and they're just talking about plans.

Nic is South African, so he doesn't use American English (whatever than is). :roll:

I remember when I came to California someone said that the Southern Pacific Railroad had an awful reputation for punctuality, and I understood that to mean that they were nearly always on time, since "awful" means "full of awe", which Americans would refer to as "awesome".

I also got into problems by telling people to "keep their pecker up." In England your pecker is your nose, and the expression means to keep your nose in the air rather than have a downhearted expression. :oops:

I don't see any copyright problems. If you really have an amazingly-good composition that you think will be the greatest hit since Sleepwalk, then don't submit it. I myself don't have any illusions that anything I compose will ever go down in the annals of musical history. :roll:
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Will the CD be available for sale on the Forum for those who do not submit material?
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Steve Green wrote:Will the CD be available for sale on the Forum for those who do not submit material?
Yes, it will, to members only.
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Alan Brookes wrote:I myself don't have any illusions that anything I compose will ever go down in the annals of musical history. :roll:
Isn't that what the Brits call the ANALS of musical history?
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Wow, it's not enough working on my playing, now I have to WRITE something! 8~)
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b0b, what a GREAT idea! And to those who keep suggesting an alternative emailed file, hey, b0b is the guy volunteering to put all this together, let's happily go along with how he wants to do it. And be glad for the opportunity. Hopefully the disc will have mostly good playing on it, and not much aimless, derivitive, out of tune, overly tentative amateurish sounding playing on it. That might be my track....
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bOb its a great idea.Just make sure the submitter is the owner of the song,ie who ever submits, owns the song.So guys go cut a track and send it in.My question is do you want a full track of steel or a song where we do a solo?
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bOb I have some folks that will be glad to hook you up with all the ins and outs of that if you like. Just give me a buzz
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b0b wrote: The song should be an original steel guitar instrumental. You can submit it on an audio CD, or on a data CD in WAV or AIFF format with a text file for liner notes.
From this I take it to be a complete instrumental !
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Hi Bob, great idea, was wondering that by agreeing to waive any royalties for the CD, am I correct in thinking that if an mp3 should 'stray' onto broadcast the fact that all publishing details will be included in the liner notes the composer will be protected, i envisage some great recordings on this cd many of which i'm sure would be well worthy of airplay. Tune, stamp, CD at the ready
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To me it seems a bit petty and small-minded to get worked up about composers' legal rights in a case like this. As I read b0b's idea, members of the international steel guitar community are invited to volunteer to SHARE their own music with fellow players on a non-commercial basis – a chance for many to be heard at all for the first time. Noone is forced to join the project, and isn't sharing what this forum is all about?

If I had enough time and talent to compose a piece, I would be queueing up at once. As I don't, I'll just look forward to the final results.
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point taken, post ammended
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I agree getting caught up in the legalities is not an issue.

Even if you did "write the next Sleepwalk", to paraphrase Brother Alan, I'm sorry to say that it has little commercial value in today's market.

Of course that's what Santo and Johnny were told when they went door to door visiting NYC music publishers in the 50's, so who knows?

On the Plus Side: If someone steals your masterpiece, this CD is proof that you were performing it at an earlier date.

Another form of "Poor Man's Copyright".
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John Groover McDuffie wrote:Wow, it's not enough working on my playing, now I have to WRITE something! 8~)
It's easier to compose something than to play someone else's composition. Whatever you play, no-one can say you're playing it wrong... :lol: :lol: :lol: 8) :)
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To the "compositionally challenged", I recommend entering a common chord progression into Band-in-a-Box, pick a comfortable accompaniment style and jam along to it. The hardest part will be naming your creation. If that stumps you, take a tip from the masters and name it after yourself: B. Bowman Hop, Remington Ride, Bluemmons, etc. 8)

Remember, the goal here is to share your playing with other forum members - nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't have to be your "masterpiece".
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b0b,
Do you still have a copy of "Perennial Sideman" layin' around somewhere? I would submit "Chicken Arrives L8 4 the Dance". If you still have a copy of that, I'd just send the consent form. Cool?
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Joe Savage wrote:b0b,
Do you still have a copy of "Perennial Sideman" layin' around somewhere? I would submit "Chicken Arrives L8 4 the Dance". If you still have a copy of that, I'd just send the consent form. Cool?
I can't find it here at the office. Maybe it's at home, or in the car. I have CDs everywhere. I'm not real good at keeping track of them.

Was it a full size jewel case, or a slim case?
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Image

This is a full size jewel case, with a black spine carrying the words "JOE SAVAGE" in yellow
and "PERENNIAL SIDEMAN" in red letters.

It is a wonderful CD, very entertaining.
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Found it, on a shelf at home right next to Santo & Johnny. I agree that it's a wonderful album. Once something is on my iPod, I rarely reference the original disk again.
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I am a media designer by trade. If you want a design for this project I would be willing to donate my time/art.

I wouldn't mind throwing a song in the mix either. Will be reso or non-pedal tho. Hope that's kosher.
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Great idea b0b.

I got a wonderful high school pal up in New Hampshire who used to have an analog recording studio (Fishtraks) in Portsmouth, years ago. Fishtraks is long gone, but my friend still has the expertise; and some great recording equipment from those days; as well the latest digital doo-wop.

I'm ready to go.

Thanks again, b0b. You're always schem, uh, thinking. :lol:
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b0b: How many submissions have you received so far ? To keep the momentum going you need to give us a progress report about once a week. ;-)

My feeling is that this project will go to several volumes and will continue over many years. 8)
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Alan Brookes wrote:b0b: How many submissions have you received so far ?
None.
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