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[quote="Mac McGhee"] why when I go out to perform the house is full and they ask for the old stuff." That individual's name is George Jones.
I play for money and I play for the fun of it and mostly the fun. I don't listen to the crap they call country music. I attend and will be attending the show in Dallas this month. Guess we will all listen to the old crap. What do I know? It just hit me "I live in Texas.
Mac, When I go out to perform the house is full and they ask for the new stuff.What do I know? It just hit me " I live in New York. Joe
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M. Schwartzman,

You may agree that some folks can be disagreeable out of force of habit. There was a neighbor who was harmless in every way, with one exception. You could pick any subject from A to Z, just for starting a neighborly chat. No matter how hard I tried to zero in on factual subject matters, her purpose was to rearrange the entire concepts in an apparent attempt to be difficult. The other instinct that some have nurtured throughout their lives, is quite similar to the weakest are doomed by the wolf pack effect. Compassion is its only antagonism. There is far too little compassion for the victim who has stumbled and fallen. You'd be a "few fries short of a happy meal" if you plan on being lifted by the first passerby. There are similar situations occurring in music. At the present time, efforts are made by dousing the efforts to promote country music in its true form. Where are the Harlan Howards at the present time? P.S. Pardon the misspelling of Harlan...
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Joe: I think you said it all in one breath:
You live in New York!
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Joe Miraglia wrote:what year did country music stop being Country Music.Joe
Real country music started to go downhill when electric instruments were introduced.

To me, the major turning point was when Waylon Jennings made an impact on the country music scene from the mid-1970s to early 1980s. Songs like 'Good Hearted Woman', and 'Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys' launched a million weekend country bands with just a Telecaster, acoustic guitar, bass, and drums. Instruments such as piano, fiddle, and steel guitar were no longer necessary to play this new brand of country music that was slowly drifting toward rock 'n' roll.
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Leslie: Your post I would have to agree to a point. However, with Jennings not needing a steel I think himself and Ralph Mooney would disagree with that statement. Rainy Day Woman comes to mind. What would that sound like without Moon?
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That darn invention of electricity,we would be better off with out it. :) Joe
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Mac McGhee wrote:Leslie: Your post I would have to agree to a point. However, with Jennings not needing a steel I think himself and Ralph Mooney would disagree with that statement. Rainy Day Woman comes to mind. What would that sound like without Moon?
I'm not saying that Jennings never used steel on any of his recordings. However, 'Rainy Day Woman' does not figure prominently in my mind. Most of his hits could be done without steel, and much of his sound was built around 'that Tele twang'. He was also a rock 'n' roller before he did country.
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Leslie Ehrlich wrote:

Most of his hits could be done without steel, and much of his sound was built around 'that Tele twang'. He was also a rock 'n' roller before he did country.
Not in the bands I worked with. When we played a Jennings song, or who every we had the steel-ME.
Maybe thats why we sound better than Waylon :P Joe
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Hi there without wanting to stir up the pot,i love any decent country song that has a good steel man playing in the background, across the pond here we dont get to many radio stations that put out a steady flow of good songs like you do in the good old usa.Regards Keithwhite UK.
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My point,what year did country music stop being Counrty Music.
I'll take a wild guess here and say, 1992? - (the year Achy-Breaky Heart was released.) ;-)
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It is easier to blame today's country than it is to admit that I'm lazy.
I suspect that most of us as steel players like the old country because we can phone it in and sleep thru it with little thought or preperation. Where as the top 40 is going to require a little work and preperations to keep up.
If I am honest about todays country I would have to admit that it's not that I like or dislike it, it's I'm too lazy to take the time to learn to play some of the songs that require a little practice.
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Bo Legg wrote:
If I am honest about todays country I would have to admit that it's not that I like or dislike it, it's I'm too lazy to take the time to learn to play some of the songs that require a little practice.
Bo, Right on! Our band, Willow Creek practice and go over the songs till we get it right.Eight years I've been playing todays new country and have to work at it.Not to say if I played in a old country band I wouldn't have to practice.The two POTS are different. I love the old and enjoy the new,It's fun to play. Keeps me young :) Joe

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Charles Davidson wrote:Tommy the reason you won't hear Dale on radio or rarely on TV ,he's just TOO good,They think of him the same way they did Johnny Cash,when a record exc. told Johnny,You are TOO country for country.maybe if Dale would start singing songs with NO melody,replace the steel guitar with a couple of rock guitar players,and a keyboard,he would be welcomed into the fold of country music,HOPE HE NEVER DOES THIS. DYKBC.
That's why I like the satelite radio they play what the people say 90% of the time.