Glenn Beck Show! Great interview on Toby Keith!

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 5 Aug 2008 8:10 pm

Bob H., your post made my night. The bold truth is always a lovely thing to read.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 6 Aug 2008 7:20 am

I didn't hear the interview, but Toby is no different than any other artist voicing his or her opinion.
Dixie Chicks, Willie, or Merle, any actor,
It's ok for some, as long as you agree with them.

I do like Toby's music!

I'll have to see the movie....

Ron Page · Post by **Ron Page** » 6 Aug 2008 7:40 am

I'd just like to point out the obvious. Opinions have nothing to do with the truth. They are neither true or false.

So what do you say we just leave the BS to the political blogosphere?

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 6 Aug 2008 8:28 am

Well, as many of you know. I'm considerably left of center in my politics, and you can guess what I think of both Beck and Savage, as well as Limbaugh, Coulter and the rest.

But there's something more important here. We are clearly very diverse in out opinions, and we have to be very careful not to let our disagreements interfere with our personal relationships with those with whom we disagree.

It is OK to disagree with somebody, as long as you treat them with dignity and respect. One member of this forum and I have been arguing about politics for 25 years, but we still maintain a warm personal relationship.

It's important to remember that we here are all united by the love of this crazy contraption whose secrets we are tying to unravel, and that there is more that unites us than divides us.

It's even more important that we all remember that both liberals (like me) and conservatives love our country, and we all basically have the same goals of seeing her strong and healthy and prosperous, and where we disagree is the best method of achieving that goal.

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 6 Aug 2008 10:19 am

When a guy gets on national television and says that black people should act "black", and they should not act "caucasian"... that is racism. Plain and simple... no question about it. I am just reporting what the guy said on the show. Yes, he has a right to his opinion, regardless of how repugnant those opinions are. If anyone here thinks these statements are not racist, I'd like to hear you explain them away.

Steve Alcott · Post by **Steve Alcott** » 6 Aug 2008 10:28 am

We might want to keep in mind as well that "Beer For My Horses" is about lynching.

Ron Page · Post by **Ron Page** » 6 Aug 2008 6:21 pm

Doug, with all due respect your quotes attributed to Toby are incomplete and out of context if I can believe the text of the interview posted GlennBeck.com.

A more complete version of what was said is shown there.

"TOBY: Okay, but, also, I think that the black people would say, he don't talk, act, or care railway himself as a black person.

GLENN: What does that even mean?

TOBY: I don't know what that means, I'm saying that's what I think that they would say. Even though the the black society would pull for him, I still think that they think in the back of their mind that the only reason that he is in is because he talks, acts and carries himself as a Caucasian, but I think he's got a I think him and McCain are the two best choices, in my opinion, that we've had in years. ..."

I'm sure "care railway" is a transcription error and should be "carry", as you stated.

I'm not sure where your quotes were take from, but I'm glad I looked up a source that at least I trust. It leaves me with a mighty different impression when read in context.

Chris Schlotzhauer · Post by **Chris Schlotzhauer** » 6 Aug 2008 7:34 pm

"I think him and McCain are the two best choices, in my opinion, that we've had in years. ..."

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 6 Aug 2008 8:05 pm

TK's remarks were not only racist, they were DUMB. They are based on the assumption was that all African Americans are uneducated idiots who can't speak proper English.

This is up there with Bill O'Reilly's famous remark about being surprised that nobody called out for some "M-F-ing iced tea" at an upscale Black owned New York City restaurant.

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 6 Aug 2008 8:50 pm

In my opinion, the context doesn't change the basic idea. HE thinks blacks believe that Obama is where he is because he's acting like a caucasian, not like a black. Where did he get that idea? How does he know what blacks are thinking, and why is he even talking about it on national TV? I think those thoughts are in His mind, and he is attributing them to others. Anyway, that's just my take on it...

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 6 Aug 2008 9:24 pm

I don't think Glenn is scum,But he sure exposes a LOT of it,The more flack he gets,proves he's doing a GREAT job.I watched a few minutes of the Toby interview,about all I could take.And Mike P,is right,I assume he knows I'm a conservative,I know he's a liberal,But I have a LOT of respect for him,Used to read all his articles in Steel Guitar World mag,I really like his music,and the hard work he did on the Curly project,We may not share the same political views,SO WHAT.We do have one thing in common,We both love music and the steel guitar,DYKBC.

Stephen Gambrell · Post by **Stephen Gambrell** » 6 Aug 2008 9:34 pm

Fox News is about as much fun to listen to as 'Rasslin'. Entertainment disguised as across-the-board conservatism. William F. Buckley, to me, was a thinking man's conservative, just as Barry Goldwater was a working man's Republican. I don't know who this Beck character is, but if he needs to interview country singers to maintain his ratings, then his credibility is just a little bit suspect, to me. And it's a sad day for the conservatives if one of their key spokesmen is a country singer.
Country music's done gone sour, and this is gonna be the SORRIEST election we've ever had.

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 6 Aug 2008 10:31 pm

a 1 minute Audio clip of Toby Keith's comments from the Glen Beck show is posted on youtube.

Listen to the clip and make your own assessment:

click ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6hC4GdFOYQ

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 7 Aug 2008 2:37 am

Charles Davidson wrote: Mike P,is right,I assume he knows I'm a conservative,I know he's a liberal,But We may not share the same political views,SO WHAT.We do have one thing in common,We both love music and the steel guitar,DYKBC.

Charlie I did know you don't see eye to eye with me about politics, but I still consider you a friend. And I believe music is more important than politics anyway.

225 years ago give or take a few, Napoleon waged war and made a lot of speeches, while Beethoven sat in his room and wrote music. Today all of Napoleon's conquests have been undone, and nobody cares what he said, but millions of people listen to Beethoven's works every day.

Politicians come and go. Music is forever.

I'm amazed this thread hasn't been closed yet.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 7 Aug 2008 4:23 am

Yes, he said just what Ron said.

Of course, it wasn't politically correct.

Gordy Hall · Post by **Gordy Hall** » 7 Aug 2008 7:13 am

Of course, it wasn't politically correct.

The blatant racism shown by Toby Keith is never 'politically correct'.

To make excuses for it is reprehensible.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 7 Aug 2008 7:15 am

Toby was repling to what Glenn asked. His thoughts, no big deal.

Ron Page · Post by **Ron Page** » 7 Aug 2008 8:01 am

Doug, I guess Toby knows what blacks are thinking the same way you know what he is thinking. It's speculation, which is not usually a good idea especially in the media.

It's pretty widely known that as blacks achiieve success in America they are often subject to racial slurs and ridicule from other (seemingly jealous) blacks. What Toby Keith seems to be suggesting is how some blacks would rationalize--in their minds, not his own-- Obama's success in appealing to white voters.

That's the way I read it. Of course, if you only have the left-wing blog snippets to go by you are left with an entirely different notion. I believe that the context here makes a big difference. If context didn't make any difference then the full statement would likely have been posted. It's a standard tatic over on HuffingtonPost. If you doubt me, just Google "Huffington Toby Keith Glenn Beck" and read the titles of the hits.

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 7 Aug 2008 9:05 am

The audio clip speaks for itself.

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 7 Aug 2008 9:43 am

Ron Page wrote: It's pretty widely known that as blacks achiieve success in America they are often subject to racial slurs and ridicule from other (seemingly jealous) blacks.

I think that line should read "as PEOPLE achieve success in America they are often subject to ridicule from other (seemingly jealous) people."

It's not a racial thing, it's human nature. Is there anybody on this forum who has not been jealous of somebody who is highly successful? (perhaps someone they knew many years ago before they achieved that success?"

Ron, I think your post, like TK's remarks, is stereotyping all African Americans.