Question.. Teenage kids listening to Satanic Music?

Dave Harmonson · Post by **Dave Harmonson** » 25 Apr 2008 10:44 am

J.S. Bach got kicked out of the church for playing satanic music. This talk has been going around for sometime now. If I acted out the songs I've played or sang for the last forty years I would've killed my wife, drank myself to death, spent my life in prison, got myself executed and lost all my money gambling, and who knows what else. I think it's shot-sighted to blame music, movies or vidieo games for what a teenager does. What caused bad behavior before Rap Music?

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 25 Apr 2008 10:48 am

What a silly question!
Everybody knows it was Rock and Roll!

PS: There is a big difference between rap and "satanic" music.

Mike Winter · Post by **Mike Winter** » 25 Apr 2008 10:50 am

Edward -- the guy's name was Harry J. Anslinger. He was similar to Tailgunner Joe in the Fifties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger

Because of him they made propaganda movies like:

Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 25 Apr 2008 12:03 pm

I think I injured myself refraining from submitting the post I wrote. It really hurts.
Gotta go smelt me a golden calf or something' to make things right. Maybe listen to some Judas Priest.

Fred Malone · Post by **Fred Malone** » 25 Apr 2008 12:11 pm

Yes satanic music is very dangerous.
Satin uses stuff like this to get to the minds of the young and the old to turn them away from God!
Satin is more powerful and evil than alot of people thinks, and we are no match for him but the Lord Jesus is more than a match for him!
Proverbs 22:6 says:Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old,he will not depart from it. God Bless.
Fred

P Gleespen · Post by **P Gleespen** » 25 Apr 2008 12:20 pm

Jon Light wrote:I think I injured myself refraining from submitting the post I wrote. It really hurts.
Gotta go smelt me a golden calf or something' to make things right. Maybe listen to some Judas Priest.

Too funny!
I'm L-ing so O. L. that my nearly two year old is laughing along with me, I guess a good smelting joke is a hit with the toddler crowd. Heck, she's even R.O.T.F. right now as I type! (of course, she does that a lot. ...even without the idol jokes.)

Re Judas Priest: in hindsight, it seems so obvious, but when I was a kid it never not once occurred to me that Rob Halford was a "leather boy". Of course, I didn't know Freddie Mercury was gay either. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

Back on track:

The Devil is in the details.

...or was that Miss Jones?

Fred, Satin is a delightful material for clothing. Not to be confused with Satan.

Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 25 Apr 2008 12:30 pm

Not to be confused with Satan.

Or is it?! Confusion is his way!

Wait a sec---Freddie Mercury? No way! Where'd you hear that? Next you'll be telling me Harvey Fierstein is both gay and Jewish. Such slander!

Steinar Gregertsen · Post by **Steinar Gregertsen** » 25 Apr 2008 1:02 pm

What do you get when you play a Stratocaster backwards? Yup, that's right,- Retsacotarts!!! Don't know what that is? Go look it up and you'll never play a Stratocaster again.........

Steinar

Mike Winter · Post by **Mike Winter** » 25 Apr 2008 1:24 pm

Yeah...kind of like backmasking! Remember that? "Oooh, let's play the albums backwards to get all the information on how Paul died."

Charlie Manson mentioned getting messages from the Beatles..."Helter Skelter," which told him that there would be a big race war, so go ahead and kill Sharon Tate, Abigail Folger, Jay Sebring, and Steven Parent, and the La Biancas, and whomever else. So the Beatles were ultimately responsible for those heinous crimes? Please. You've been reading too many Chick comics. People who take things farther, ie., murder, do it because they have a predisposition towards that kind of behavior. Don't blame the band. No one with any sense/conscience/moral fortitude would kill people because of "the music," unless they had mental problems to begin with.

John Steele (deceased) · Post by **John Steele (deceased)** » 25 Apr 2008 1:53 pm

Because I've been an undertaker my whole life, I was never much more than amused at the satanic music kids, the goth kids, and people who listen to stuff like Rob Zombie's "House of a Thousand Corpses", etc. etc. One friend's kid tried very hard to get some reaction out of me with his goth makeup, etc. until I broke out in fits of laughter. I advised him that, if his obsession with death, corpses, etc was really anything more than the
lame-o, laughable cry for attention that I expected, perhaps he'd like to come follow me around for a week or so. I know if Rob Zombie had to face some of things I've had to over the years, he wouldn't need any dollar store makeup to turn white.
Offensive to me ? Naw. Totally lame ? Oh yeah.
As far as music having an influence on people's thoughts, I think that's a reasonable assumption; but making music responsible for a person's actions... not so reasonable.
-John

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 25 Apr 2008 2:20 pm

I'm thankful I never had to deal with my teenagers liking that kind of music.
I'm glad they prefer songs like "I Saw God Today"!

Steinar Gregertsen · Post by **Steinar Gregertsen** » 25 Apr 2008 2:22 pm

John Steele wrote:One friend's kid tried very hard to get some reaction out of me with his goth makeup, etc. until I broke out in fits of laughter.

Exactly! Reminds me of one day I was sitting at a local cafe and these Goths comes walking in, all dressed in black with pale white faces and heavy black makeup. Then a couple of Goth girls walks in (they probably have this rule that 'Goth chicks' has to walk ten steps behind the tough guys, hehe) and one of them is carrying a........... small white poodle!! Totally destroyed the image and had me chuckling for a week just thinking about it.....

On a more serious note - yes, there is evil in this world and I don't take lightly on it. But I don't worry about some black metal bands using goats heads as stage props. The evil that worries me is of a totally different sort, but to get into that I would have to touch on political issues that are best left alone on this forum..

Steinar

Ben Jones · Post by **Ben Jones** » 25 Apr 2008 2:56 pm

tough to say what the funniest black metal picture of all time is but this one gets my vote. poor kid.

second place

I with Steinar regarding the true evils to be feared.
Patrick, not only did I not realize Halford was gay or even Freddie Mercury, I didnt realize the Village People were gay. i just thought they really liked the Navy and the YMCA...ALOT.

Rick Nicklas · Post by **Rick Nicklas** » 25 Apr 2008 3:41 pm

This post is very disturbing to me. In fact that is exactly why I quit the last group I played with. Everyone I spoke with and all reviews I read said our music sounded like "HELL"....

Mike Winter · Post by **Mike Winter** » 25 Apr 2008 4:08 pm

I was at a "meeting" years ago, with a fairly famous evangelist waxing eloquent. He was going on about the ravages of youth, and the fact that this new penchant for wearing wire-rimmed granny glasses was "of the devil." He pointed out someone who was wearing black Clark Kent plastic frames, and said, "Thank God, there's a boy who doesn't follow the trend!" The guy later admitted that he wore those glasses because Buddy Holly wore them.

I'll give you that certain "celebrities" lean or leaned that way, but the bottom line is that people are responsible for their own actions. We all listened to all kinds of stuff back in the day, but very, very few of us ever took things to the extreme and killed people because of what we "heard." Personally, I'd be more concerned about the tragedy of the many Catholic Church molestation cases, or the recent Texas FLDS issue...they didn't listen to anything...they weren't allowed to.

Archie Nicol R.I.P. · Post by **Archie Nicol R.I.P.** » 25 Apr 2008 4:34 pm

Mike, Talking of Buddy Holly; On one recording session, somebody pointed out that the steel player's pedals were back to front. Buddy said; "That'll Be The Day"....and the rest is history.

Arch.

Mike Winter · Post by **Mike Winter** » 25 Apr 2008 4:45 pm

Edward Meisse · Post by **Edward Meisse** » 25 Apr 2008 11:25 pm

Thanks for the Anslinger info, Mike. BTW, the modern stage play, "Refer Madness," is hilarious. But alot of the modern Satanic stuff is pretty strictly tongue in cheek. My son was involved in some of that stuff for awhile. And I'm also the sort who finds people outside the main stream to be interesting. I've talked to genuine big city gangsters and Goths and people that I don't even know what they call themselves. There is alot less to be afraid of than most people think.

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 26 Apr 2008 5:24 am

and I was told way back to never listen to "Hotel California"..but sadly, I still do

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 26 Apr 2008 6:11 am

Dave Mudgett brought up the point of determining causation in human actions. Anytime I hear someone say "everything happens for a reason" I strongly suspect I'm dealing with an idiot, because very clearly everything happens for hundreds (if not thousands) of reasons. When someone tells me that "everything happens for a reason" and they then proceed to tell me what "it" is, I know I'm dealing with an idiot.

When the history of the fall of America is written (by the pod-thingies crawling out of the wreckage in One Million A.D.) I think television will be seen to portray a leading role, far more than music. Three entire generations have been programmed into a frenzy of mindless, babbling consumerism, yet they're not getting better. Three entire generations have been conned into accepting the laissez-faire "free-market" model of capitalism as being beneficial to anyone other than the richest 1% of the population.... Torture is now entertainment, due to "24" and "C.S.I." and "Law & Order", and the sexual frenzy & drug abuse among Los Angeles's young, dissolute actors, writers and producers has become the role model for young Americans all over the country - "write about what you know."

Now that everyone's lives are proof that a lifetime of hard work will often get you nowhere, the TV's are reprogramming us to accept blind fate as the "cause" of everything - "Oprah's Big Giveaway", dance, "Idol", "Survivor" and the game shows require no talent to win - "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?" What are they trying to teach you here? Maybe we need more Satanists, not less.

Just try and take American's televisions away from them, there are more recovering heroin addicts & alcoholics than people who can quit "American Idol" & "Dr. Phil". Eat the rich.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 26 Apr 2008 6:50 am

My wife and I quit watching television 10-15 years ago.
We are much the better for it.
I know my guitar playing has improved, for sure.

The mind is much too precious to waste on such drivel.

David Hartley · Post by **David Hartley** » 26 Apr 2008 7:29 am

Keep 'em coming. I am reading these all with interest.

DH

Mark Durante · Post by **Mark Durante** » 26 Apr 2008 7:51 am

The voices in my head tell me the only way to save our teens is for us to band together and kill all the satanists, of course they won't all admit to being satanists............

Edward Meisse · Post by **Edward Meisse** » 26 Apr 2008 9:17 am

I haven't had a television of my own. When I left my parent's house in about 1969 I left television behind. Oddly enough, my tastes in programming ran from the most sublime Playhouse 90 and Westinghouse theatre stuff in the '50's to the inanity of the stuff in the boxed set my son got me for my birthday (all 17 episodes of the, "George of the Jungle," cartoon show complete with Tom Slick and, my favorite of all time, Super Chicken). From this you can guess that while I don't have a television hook up, I do have a DVD set up. I love the movies. I've seen, "Chicago," almost as many times now as I've seen, "The Wizard of Oz."

Mr. Durante, from the suggestion you made, I'm guessing you are a closet Satanist who is trying to avoid being suspected.

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