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b0b · Post by **b0b** » 16 Jan 2011 1:30 pm

#40 - Joey Ace - "Love Dance of the Whales"

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 16 Jan 2011 5:53 pm

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... highlight=
I thought I would start a separate thread about the experiences of putting together one's own recording for this project. (See above.)

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 17 Jan 2011 3:29 pm

Mike Perlowin wrote: This recording of my classical music trio: http://www.etsga.org/mikeperlowin_Bourree.mp3 was recorded live in concert, obviously in one take with no overdubs. This recording will appear on the Forum members CD. (I didn't compose the original tune, but I did write this arraignment.)

So the goalposts have changed ?
That must mean that we can submit anything that's "Trad" or out of copyright, as long as it's our own arrangement !!

I understood that it HAD to be an original composition, not only original, but composed by the player..

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=1730618

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 17 Jan 2011 4:17 pm

Is this a big deal? I'm willing to make an exception for original arrangements of unfamiliar music that's over 100 years old.

I understand that your submission is still in the mail, Basil. If you wish to change it, email me.

The intent is to showcase steel guitar talent on original material. I asked Mike to improvise something new. He said that his recording equipment was no longer functioning, but he had a live recording of his trio playing one of his arrangements. Okay, if that's all you have... $:\$

There's plenty of space left on the disk. The only thing that would ruin the novel listening experience is a familiar tune.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 17 Jan 2011 4:23 pm

B0b, once the exception is made the playing field is no longer level..

OK so it's your prerogative to change the conditions as you see fit, but I would have been better for YOU to have said that rather than us being told elsewhere by someone else.

Surely if the length of time it took to write an arrangement is the yardstick, then the LEAST proficient of us who took the longest to work it out and write it would qualify ?

How long do you think it took me to score write out the arrangement of this for the RTE concert orchestra ?

Click here

A classical piece written in 1903 by Hugo Emil Alfvén

I wouldn't have considered submitting this under the original rules..
Can I now ?

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 17 Jan 2011 4:48 pm

I originally intended to submit a 16th Century lute piece, which I had recorded 20 years previously on the lute, but this time transcribed for lap steel. I rejected the idea because I hadn't written the song myself, it being well-known. I agree with Basil that we shouldn't change the rules.

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 17 Jan 2011 4:51 pm

Yes, I'll include it.

FWIW, I hate rules. All I wrote on the submission form was "The song should be an original steel guitar instrumental." To date the only thing I rejected was a familiar Christmas carol, familiarity being the deal-breaker. Some songs aren't in strict adherence to what I think "should be" allowed, but I included them because the player felt that they showcase his originality and talent.

This CD isn't a contest - it's an exercise in sharing our music. There's no "playing field" or "goal posts" because it's not a competition.

I stressed originality for 2 reasons: 1) to avoid legal hassles and 2) to avoid getting 10 competing recordings of Londonderry Aire or Danny Boy. Obviously steel guitar arrangements of obscure classical music fit within the intent of that one sentence, if they are not within the "letter of the law".

Something about mountains and molehills, tempests and teapots... Submit what you you want, Basil.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 17 Jan 2011 5:28 pm

My big problem is ME..OK B0b, understood..

I only wanted be able to submit something other than the theme tune I wrote for the RTE Television series "Country Startime" It's boring (And Plagiarized)

So I'm Sure Alan will send this to you and I'll post a description. E-mail AND snail..

Wade Medlock · Post by **Wade Medlock** » 18 Jan 2011 7:17 am

Wow, Basil, great job. Steel and 6-string virtuosity abounds.

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 18 Jan 2011 3:48 pm

#41 - Henning Kock - "Steelin' In The Dark"

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 19 Jan 2011 7:44 pm

#42 - Aled Jones - "Crys Gorllewinol"

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b0b · Post by **b0b** » 21 Jan 2011 1:10 pm

The two controversial "classical" tunes arrived today:

#43 - Basil Henriques - "Swedish Rhapsody"
#44 - Mike Perlowin - "Bourrée"

Basil, the submission form says that liner notes would be emailed, but I haven't received them yet.

Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) · Post by **Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)** » 22 Jan 2011 10:32 am

I've been wanting to get in on this project myself ... it sounds like a really fun thing and I've been having a great time noodling around and trying to come up with something ...

... my problem is that everything I noodle around with starts out as sounding original and then ends up sounding like a song (or combination of songs) that have already been composed or played ... it's like they end up sounding "too familiar".

It's funny ... years ago, before I quit playing back in 2000, I could pull something original or different out of thin air at the drop of a hat ... now that I'm back into playing again, I'm suddenly struggling to come up with something that doesn't sound like a spin-off or variation of existing songs.

There is a tune that keeps bouncing around in my head and has a sort of Celtic feel to it and I don't recognize it, but I honestly don't know if it's something really coming from me or if it may be some tune that I might have heard long ago somewhere. If I can determine that it's original, or at least some tune obscure enough to sound original, I do know what I'd call it ... "Excalibur Steel" ... that's the name that pops into my head every time I think of the tune.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 22 Jan 2011 4:35 pm

Jim Lindsey wrote:... my problem is that everything I noodle around with starts out as sounding original and then ends up sounding like a song (or combination of songs) that have already been composed or played...

That's been the bugbear of composers throughout the ages. There can't be many combinations of notes left that someone hasn't already used.

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 22 Jan 2011 5:34 pm

Alan Brookes wrote: There can't be many combinations of notes left that someone hasn't already used.

I've heard a few who try..

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 22 Jan 2011 6:44 pm

Music is infinite. There's no danger of running out of unique melodies. None at all. Remove the limitations you impose on your your own musical thinking. There are no limits in music.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 23 Jan 2011 6:13 pm

Unable to come up with anything new in time, I'm sending you a recording I made a over a year ago for my new album I'm working on, "Brummy Goes Grunt". I hope it gets to you in time.

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 24 Jan 2011 2:32 pm

#45 - Mark Durante - "New Mark's Boogie"
#46 - Bob Simons - "Russty"

It's getting very near the end. Time to start printing CDs for duplication.

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 25 Jan 2011 2:31 pm

#47 - Alan F. Brookes - "OOOOOH!"

I don't understand this one.

What a fun project we have going here!

Steve Green · Post by **Steve Green** » 25 Jan 2011 2:41 pm

b0b wrote:No deadline. When I get enough material to make the CD, I'll make it. Probably about 50 or 60 songs, I figure. From then on (assuming success), new submissions will go in the queue for Volume 2.

Limited to one song per member, to keep anyone from hogging tracks.

You going with 50 or 60?

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 25 Jan 2011 2:52 pm

I'll stop this one at 50. If yours is in the mail when we reach that number, send me a "stop the presses" email and I'll wait for it.

Jim Eaton · Post by **Jim Eaton** » 25 Jan 2011 4:15 pm

3-2-1........Liftoff!!!!!!!!!!!!
JE:-)>

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 25 Jan 2011 4:50 pm

b0b wrote:...There are no limits in music.

b0b wrote:#47 - Alan F. Brookes - "OOOOOH!"
I don't understand this one. ...

Quod erat demonstrandum.

(That's 47 laughs.)

b0b wrote:...What a fun project we have going here!

Absolutely. We should do it every year.

Bob Simons · Post by **Bob Simons** » 26 Jan 2011 6:56 am

Thanks for including me, bOb! Can't wait to hear the music of all these players whose thoughts on steel guitar I've been getting to know on the Forum.

Great idea!

Barry Hyman · Post by **Barry Hyman** » 28 Jan 2011 5:34 am

So we're up to 47? Just three more! C'mon, guys! Can't wait to hear this thing!

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