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Topic: KT66 Deluxe Reverb Style amp |
Mike Scaggs
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Posted 23 Aug 2017 7:53 pm |
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Well I usually talk steel guitars but is another amp I just finished for my good customer in KS. It is a Deluxe Reverb style amp but with many mods. Now for you amp guys you will get this right off.
Big big iron to support the current draw of those tube
Big output transformer pushing 2x10 Celestion Golds 8Ω
2 Gold Lion KT66 Power Tubes
5AR4 tube rectifier
All vintage blue mallory coupling caps (yeah!)
NOS preamps tubes at a whopping 240vDC on the plates (nice and strong)
420vDC on the plates B+ @ 117vAC
Midrange control in the back
Power section coupling caps are .047uF instead of the flabby .1s
Theres more but you guys get the picture.
For you non-electronic guys, this amp will blow your head off! Great guitar amp but never tried it on steel yet.
Anyway, thought I would show you something you might never see anywhere else...
Cheers,
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Godfrey Arthur
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3rd Rock
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Posted 23 Aug 2017 9:00 pm
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Juicy...
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Don Mogle
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Round Rock, TX, USA
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Posted 27 Aug 2017 3:20 pm
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Mike,
Your work in impeccable! Beautiful work on the electronics.
Man, I sure wish you lived in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
Don |
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Tim Heidner
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Groves, TX
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Posted 27 Aug 2017 6:13 pm
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| Not sure what makes that a Deluxe Reverb other than the name plate, but I bet it sounds great! |
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David Gertschen
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Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted 27 Aug 2017 7:20 pm
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| If that amp sounds as good as it looks, I'd bet it's a killer...Although your dog doesn't seem all that enthused about it, lol! |
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James Quackenbush
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Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2017 11:54 am
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| N-I-C-E !!!!!!!!!..........Jim |
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Michael Butler
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California, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2017 2:45 pm
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great build! i have an original 66 that is amazing.
what change does the .047 caps do vs. the .1?
play music!
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 31 Aug 2017 5:31 am
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| Michael Butler wrote: |
great build! i have an original 66 that is amazing.
what change does the .047 caps do vs. the .1?
play music! |
It fattened up the Bass response and makes it tighter to mine and others ears...
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 31 Aug 2017 5:40 am
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| Tim Heidner wrote: |
| Not sure what makes that a Deluxe Reverb other than the name plate, but I bet it sounds great! |
Absolutely right Tim. This is more like a super hotrod Vibrolux Reverb in most ways. The trannies are way bigger however to cover the filament current on the KT66s and a matching big Output tranny too running at 4ohms. There was a bit of metal work on the chassis to get it all to fit, careful planning is needed. This chassis with the big iron will not fit a 1x12 standard DR cabinet so 2x10 was my choice, it was a great choice IMHO. The circuit is what you would expect AB763 with some tweaks. The screen resistors are bumped up to 1K and the control grid resistors are bumped from a 1.5K to 5.6K to avoid some parasitic oscillation. Another easy mod was wiring the power tube sockets to accept EL34s, 6L6s, LT66s, 5881s, 6550s, etc etc ... You builders know how to do this.
This is one of those cases where the right combination of circuit, cabinet size, speaker choice, tube choice, etc all came together in a fantastic way. In fact, I loved it so much I actually kept one for myself LOL. The fact I can build whatever I want shows how much I love these.
You builders out there should give one a whirl, I think you will be very pleased in the end.
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Steve Pawlak
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Arizona, USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2017 7:52 pm
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Beautiful work Mike!
As a novice I recently built a JTM-45 clone from a kit from the Tube Depot
It was my my first build and it fired right up.
Sounds terrific I may change power tubes to KT66
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 1 Sep 2017 3:35 am
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Great job! Now it's time to move on to the next phase and scratch build an amp, you can do it...
On a side note: I had yet another so called custom shop fender show up for repair. Geeze those things are terrible. They do make me coin constantly repairing them 😆😆😆
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 1 Sep 2017 3:49 am
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Nice work on those amps, so tidy!
Mike, did you mean you put 5.6 k grid stoppers on the KT66's? |
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 1 Sep 2017 5:05 am
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| J Fletcher wrote: |
Nice work on those amps, so tidy!
Mike, did you mean you put 5.6 k grid stoppers on the KT66's? |
These resistors, which are commonly called "grid stoppers", are not put on the control grid of the tube for signal level attenuation purposes; rather, they act as a very high frequency low-pass filter in conjunction with the input capacitance of the triode (which is the sum of the grid-to-cathode capacitance and the Miller capacitance, and can get as high as 100pF or more). In the normal operating mode of a vacuum tube, the grid is biased negatively with respect to the cathode. Because of this, there is no current flow into the grid element, and it looks like a very high impedance circuit node. This means that there can be little or no midband attenuation of the input signal, because the voltage divider formed by the series resistor and the high input impedance of the tube is very small. For all practical purposes, the attenuation is negligible at midband, so there is no "increase in gain" by removing these resistors. Attenuation only occurs at the higher frequencies, above the frequency breakpoint caused by the series resistance and the input capacitance.
The grid resistor accomplishes the following things:
It helps prevent high frequency parasitic oscillation in the tube itself
It helps prevent radio frequencies from getting into the input stage, where they can be rectified and lowpass filtered (AM detection) and become audible at the amplifier output
It can limit grid current when the tube is driven into the positive grid region, which helps in preventing "blocking" distortion
So..... yes some people call them "Grid Stoppers"
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 1 Sep 2017 4:29 pm
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I only mentioned the grid stoppers , because your post originally said "plate load resistors". I knew you meant grid stoppers , but some may have been confused. Just trying to clarify. Nice work on that amp.
Must sound killer. |
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Tom Wolverton
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Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 1 Sep 2017 5:29 pm
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Mike, what is the wattage of the amp?
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 1 Sep 2017 7:52 pm
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| Tom Wolverton wrote: |
| Mike, what is the wattage of the amp? |
I didn't measure it and do the math to be honest. If I had to take a guess it would be 50 watts... It is louder than I need really but I love it
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Chris Boyd
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Leonia,N.J./Charlestown,R.I.
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Mike Scaggs
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 6 Sep 2017 4:09 am
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| J Fletcher wrote: |
I only mentioned the grid stoppers , because your post originally said "plate load resistors". I knew you meant grid stoppers , but some may have been confused. Just trying to clarify. Nice work on that amp.
Must sound killer. |
Ha! I see it now, I meant control grid resistors which of course is the same as grid stoppers. Thanks for busting me 
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 8 Sep 2017 5:09 pm
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| KT-66's sound great in a Vibrolux Reverb. J |
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 8 Sep 2017 5:32 pm
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| John Goux wrote: |
| KT-66's sound great in a Vibrolux Reverb. J |
It would except a Vibrolux Reverb power transformer is to small for the filament current of a KT66.
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Steven Paris
From:
Los Angeles
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Posted 11 Sep 2017 5:17 am Re: KT66 Deluxe Reverb Style amp
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| Mike Scaggs wrote: |
| NOS preamps tubes at a whopping 240vDC on the plates (nice and strong) |
Why the extra-high voltage on the preamp tube plates?
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Mike Scaggs
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 11 Sep 2017 5:20 am Re: KT66 Deluxe Reverb Style amp
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| Steven Paris wrote: |
| Mike Scaggs wrote: |
| NOS preamps tubes at a whopping 240vDC on the plates (nice and strong) |
Why the extra-high voltage on the preamp tube plates? |
Well that was a product of the old Mullards I stuck in there. I had a new TAD 12AX7 in V2 that measured out at 175vDC, 170vDC is pretty normal. Stuck that Mullard in at 240vDC and that amp came to life. Ultimate tube tester, the amp itself
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