The Steel Guitar Forum Store 

Post new topic F#9 vs E9 tuning...
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  F#9 vs E9 tuning...
John Bushouse

 

Post  Posted 23 Feb 2005 3:07 pm    
Reply with quote

So, I've decided to give F#9 tuning a try on my 7 string (step one in the series of "How to Sound Like Dick McIntire in 439 EZ Steps").

I'm using (low to high) F# A# C# E G# C# E.

Everything's an accidental except for those two Es. Then I noticed that if I dropped everything down a step I ended up with E9, as follows:

E G# B D F# B D

Notice those nice friendly "natural" open strings of E, B, and D.

So the benefits of F#9 tuning seems to be higher string tension (assuming the same strings). E9 has more familiar open strings and the familiar (from G tuning) BD string pair at the 12th fret.

Any reason I shouldn't use E9 instead of F#9? as there's really no written tab in either tuning (as far as I know) that's not a limitation.

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance...

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Mike Fried

 

From:
Nashville, TN, USA
Post  Posted 23 Feb 2005 3:22 pm    
Reply with quote

I play a lot of 7-string F#9 myself. I can't think of any reason to prefer E9 over it other than needing to favor its lower range for vocalists, etc. I prefer the higher string tension on my Tradewind Frypan, but your results may differ...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website

John Bushouse

 

Post  Posted 23 Feb 2005 6:58 pm    
Reply with quote

Hmm. After reading Jeff's soapbox thread, and Bruce C.'s article on tunings, maybe I'll stick with E6, either E G# C# E G# C# E or E B C# E G# C# E. I haven't figured out what I would do with the F# and A#, anyway...
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Stephan Miller

 

From:
Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 24 Feb 2005 7:04 am    
Reply with quote

John-- I'll bet neither Jeff or Bruce would want to discourage you from exploring this tuning...one that to me looks more interesting than the versions of E6 you mention. You could get a lot out of a "compound tuning" like this, with the E6 on top and the F# triad on the bottom (or D6/E if you tune it down a step). F#9 vs E9? Why not pick whichever one favors the keys you want to play in? One consideration for me is to avoid a tuning that's going to have me playing on the 12th fret a lot, where I'll get too much harmonic chiming.
Other than that, your real limitation might be thinking too much like a guitar player (I can relate!!) Make friends with your "accidentals", bro... -Steve
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Mike Fried

 

From:
Nashville, TN, USA
Post  Posted 24 Feb 2005 9:55 am    
Reply with quote

Stephan put it much better than I did... This tuning is way more versatile than its E6/C#m predecessor, basically two interrelated tunings for the price of one. Not only do the bottom three strings give you another major triad (just down two frets from your E position), you get dominant 7th and 9th extensions to that when you add strings above it. Once you get the hang of what that's about, you'll be amazed how easy it is to find great-sounding extended chords and substitutions for minors, etc. Don't let those accidentals throw you - they're just names, anyhow! Let your ears lead the way...

[This message was edited by Mike Fried on 24 February 2005 at 09:56 AM.]

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website

John Kavanagh

 

From:
Kentville, Nova Scotia, Canada * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 27 Feb 2005 12:10 pm    
Reply with quote

I think sometimes you have to let the guitar decide what tuning it wants - even with the perfect stringing, one option might suit your instrument better.

Another consideration is whether you want to avoid or exploit open strings. An E9 tuning gives you open-string licks in E and A, common keys for blues and rock. In F#9, you can play in G at the first fret without using any open strings.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website


All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  

Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction,
steel guitars & accessories

www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

Please review our Forum Rules and Policies

Steel Guitar Forum LLC
PO Box 237
Mount Horeb, WI 53572 USA


Click Here to Send a Donation

Email admin@steelguitarforum.com for technical support.


BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles for
Band-in-a-Box

by Jim Baron
HTTP