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Topic: Something usefull to players |
John Davis
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Cambridge, U.K.
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Posted 15 Jun 2004 3:09 am |
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What would be usefull to UK players is a register of people who cross "the Pond" on a regular basis and would not mind bringing a steel with them as part of their baggage allowance in return for a little help with the airfare. I have encountered this problem of logistics on several occasions, in fact there is a steel in Canada that I would very much like to own, but the shipping problem just blows the idea away!!
Come on you guys! anybody got an answer to it??  |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 15 Jun 2004 6:01 am
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John
No more steels for you 
bob
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John Davis
From:
Cambridge, U.K.
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Posted 15 Jun 2004 6:16 am
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Aw!! come on Bob, that`s not a very christian reply to a poverty stricken Brit??!! 
Maybe I should buy the steel and leave it over there? then I could sneak over anytime and steal a couple of your gigs?
But seriously this is a problem that needs to be addressed by us that play, as it would be good for Uncle Sam`s greatest ever export, and so nice to see more steels over here............ |
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 15 Jun 2004 7:39 am
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I would be happy to include a steel guitar in my luggage if I ever come back to the UK again. I loved my one trip to London in 2000 and would return in a heartbeat (esp. if someone else was paying for it!).
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Brad's Page of Steel
A web site devoted to acoustic & electric lap steel guitars
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Dave Boothroyd
From:
Staffordshire Moorlands
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Posted 15 Jun 2004 10:33 pm
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I know what you mean, John. It's heartbreaking to see that the exchange rate for guitars is 1:1.
The grottiest old wreck in the UK goes for six or seven hundred sterling, and a quality steel can cost more than the car you take it to the gig in!
In a couple of years, when I have more time on my hands, I reckon I'll be making another trip to Tennessee. Two steels would cover the airfare if things stay as they are financially.
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Cheers!
Dave
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Nicholas Dedring
From:
Beacon, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2004 5:21 pm
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I do go to london to visit a bit of family I have over there... not incessantly, but now and again. Happy to help if I can do so...
take it easy. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 16 Jun 2004 11:25 pm
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Great Idea indeed
i think that having someone bring a steel over should avoid having to pay import duty rather than sending it via Post or Fedex.
obviously, the $$$ saved should contribute to the air fare |
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John Davis
From:
Cambridge, U.K.
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Posted 16 Jun 2004 11:36 pm
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Crow Bear Behave!, its ok to think it but maybe not to say it! We are not looking to get anyone in trouble here........
Brad, Nicholas, Thank you for your contributions I will add you both to my list! |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 17 Jun 2004 12:08 am
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I will be going to Boston in 3 weeks, July 5th back July 11th.
I will be travelling light.
If the steel is in a good roadcase I can bring it if you like.
Five cavates
1.) They are VERY nervous at Logan airport, remember a plane from there hit the towers...
If they can't inspect the unit, it doesn't fly, so packed in a big cardboard box won't cut it, but a standard high quality flightcase would work.
It must be left unlocked for inspection.
2.) I will be coming back to France with it.
So you might need a Ryan air flight to come get it, not expensive, but a low weight limit, so there would likely be a fee for over weight on your return.
But Nimes Garons is a cheap flight from Stanstead.
3.) since the steel would be out of my hands for much of the flight, and I would not have packed it, I would NOT want to be responsable for it arriving in undamaged condition.
Chances are in a good flight case it would be fine, AND I would take the best possible care with it and mark it heavey / Lourd and FRAGILE.
None the less, I would not want to be held liable if the airline drops the ball.
4) It must be shipped to Massachusets to my sisters so I can grab it, I don't have time to fly to Canada also.
5) I can NOT guarantee not having to pay duty at the airport,
I get a connection in Paris for Montpellier, which IS a little provicial airport.
But my powers of BS may not suffice. They always have in the last 8 years, but like the song says
"You nver can tell."
So I might have to pay doane/duty, in euros of course.
Other than these understandable issue, I would be happy to bring a steel back across the pond.
And you have an overnight bed and a few meals in the south of France when you come to get it.
Plus we can do some picking in the studio when you get here.
FedX costs under $290 for shipping a heavy D-10 Sho-Bud, and FedX takes good care of large boxes...if properly packed of course.
The canada to USA shipping cost, plus Ryan air weight fee, and a contribution to my flight cost, might not be so far off from the FedX charges....
And the unknown quality of it's existing case, may make this probloematic.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 17 June 2004 at 01:15 AM.] [This message was edited by David L. Donald on 17 June 2004 at 01:16 AM.] |
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John Davis
From:
Cambridge, U.K.
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Posted 17 Jun 2004 4:40 am
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David I think you are right there are two many variables on your journey for it to work for me, but I wish you a pleasant flight
and say hello to Tommy for me when you get there!
I still think it worth you posting the info about your journey and willingness to help as there might be a forumite in the next village to you that owns a steel located in Boston!! The law of the sod say`s it has to happen sometime!  |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 17 Jun 2004 5:46 am
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John, i don't think i'm misbehavin' - tellin' it like it is why not ?
don't you think we get taxed enough as it is ?
i do !
forgive me for puttin'it on the table, but shucks i'm a renegade anyway |
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John Davis
From:
Cambridge, U.K.
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Posted 17 Jun 2004 7:23 am
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Hi Crowbear,
sure I think we are taxed too much, If we should even be taxed at all on the likes of a partially knackered old steel that probably needs major work to get it going! But you and I both know the man from the customs may want his pound of flesh regardless! even if your exporting dog poo!
point being, you cannot directly ask anyone to avoid customs duty, in my opinion, without you would both be guilty of something?? |
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Chris Caruso
From:
Merrimack, NH USA
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Posted 17 Jun 2004 3:47 pm
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| John, you can buy a steel and leave it here and sit in with my group anytime!!! David, we'll be playing on the 10th local to Tommy Cass if your in the mood for some music before you go back. |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 17 Jun 2004 4:11 pm
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Chris, If that's saturday I will be having a jam at the family reunion, and Dave Derantany will bring his Millenium too!! He lives about 10 minutes from my sisters.
And I have a few old friends coming around too. A reat rock n country guitarist singer and two serious jazz cats also.
I should invite Tommy also.
If you have his e-mail send it tome, it got lost on my old e-mail app.
Thanks
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John Davis
From:
Cambridge, U.K.
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Posted 17 Jun 2004 11:50 pm
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Hey Chris, That would be a good idea, if I could afford it!
Do you know anyone going to Northern BC that would collect that old MSA D10 for me and dump it on Tommy for some alterations?
David, I think Tommy had a recent change of email address, there is a link to him on my site you can use.
http://www.pedalsteelguitar.co.uk |
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Dave Boothroyd
From:
Staffordshire Moorlands
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Posted 19 Jun 2004 12:33 am
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Now here is a thought.
On another forum, someone is shipping a motorbike from the UK to the USA. It is costing about £250. ( call it 400 dollars).
Most ebay people want about $250 for shipping a pedal steel.
A crate that would hold a motor bike would easily hold five steels.
So if five people wanted to buy one, the shipping would only be fifty quid each.
Alternatively three people might buy two steels each and have one to keep and one to sell over here, at double the purchase price.
Free steels!
Even paying the VAT would be relatively painless at that rate!
All we'd need is a buyinfg consortium in Europe and an agent in the USA.
What do you think?
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Cheers!
Dave
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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HowardR
From:
N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Dave Boothroyd
From:
Staffordshire Moorlands
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Posted 21 Jun 2004 3:33 am
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Tell me more Howard!
I searched for Promat and came up with a system for putting out fires in tunnels and a company making cow mattresses.
(??????????!)
I would not like to tell you what came up when I searched for Poopic!
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Cheers!
Dave
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 21 Jun 2004 4:59 am
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Promat's email: psdule@eunet.yu
the Dalmatian coast is lovely and worth seein' -
KFOR convoy leaves a 8:30 every morning and w: luck will have you back by suppertime |
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HowardR
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