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William Morgan III
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MSA B pedal

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I need help to get my B pedal to balance my 3rd and 6th string raise. I believe I’m thinking a couple 4 hole bell cranks for an older MSA SS II is what I need. I’ve had older MSA guitars in the past and don’t remember having any issues with the pulls. I’m having trouble remembering how they were set up. I’m 75 and seem to be slowing down.
I’ve done a forum search but haven’t found a rodding chart for older MSAs. I would really appreciate the help and experience of the forum members. Thanks, Wm
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Click here. This manual may help with adjustments.

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Just use the Carter rod chart. After all Bud built both the MSA and Carter :lol: . I have found for most 4 and 5hole bell cranked guitars this rodding works fairly well
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It is a physics rule, larger strings do not travel as far to reach the raise or lower note.
Adjust the 3rd string first. Set any stops needed.
Then go to the 6th string. The 6th string being larger does not travel as far, To go from G# to A.
And will tune proper between the 3rd string stops.
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My advice is not to fret over any minor timing differences, because in actual playing, these differences are seldom (or never) noticed.
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With the guitar upside down on a table......
For the 3rd string raise:
At the endplate, insert the pull rod into the hole closest to the guitar body. Then into the brass barrel at the 3rd hole in the bellcrank (3rd hole away from the guitar body).
For the 6th string raise:
At the endplate, insert the pull rod into the hole farthest away from the guitar body. Then into the brass barrel at the 1st hole in the bellcrank (1st hole closest to the guitar body).
This is my B pedal linkage and gets both strings to move at the same time. I'm using .011 on the 3rd and .020 plain on the 6th. If you're using a wound 6th string, this linkage blueprint won't work for you.
I have two of the older MSA Classic guitars (1975 and 1976). I'm 76 and still plugging away. When we die, just slump over your guitar and call it quits. :lol:
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Thanks to you all for your answers. I knew the 4 hole bellcrank was the answer but just wasn’t sure. Take care and stay safe. Wm
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Re: MSA B pedal

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I could never get the B pedal timed exactly (but got pretty close)with 2 hole pullers on my MSA classic SS. I ended up running the 6th string pull to another crossrod(then to the changer) in order to fine tune the ratio on that pull and get it to time well with the 3rd string.
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