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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 6:24 am    
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Bill McCloskey


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 6:30 am    
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Hasn't every composer exploited the works of Chuck Berry? I know the beatles did.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 6:51 am    
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Yeah, I agree. All music is derivative... built on preexisting music. I think AI is here to stay, and the courts will eventually find some way to sort out any copyright issues.
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Brooks Montgomery


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 7:15 am    
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Being a bit of a troglodyte, does AI go out there and record from existing works, and then modify and reproduce, or does it figure out the progressions, sounds, moods, then recreate….or both?

Will note progressions of x-amount need to be copyrighted? Is the planet doomed to a take over of supercharged drum machines and karaoke computers?

R2D2 club deejays?

Maybe there will be a good James Cameron movie in the works like the Terminator.
Rebel groups of musicians, armed with viruses on thumbdrives, battling the new AI musicverse. To the death. A child prodigy is born and needs to be protected (maybe Billy Strings😎). Ahh-nold Shwartsemstrummer’s last film?
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 8:48 am    
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From what I understand, a user can input vocal performances of a certain singer and AI will generate realistic vocals of that singer (singing new lyrics). So a crappy singer/songwriter can create awesome sounding vocals for his song using the vocal samples of some other singer.

And I think a user can choose to generate a song "in the style of" some famous performer or band.
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David DeLoach posted the following AI generated song a couple of weeks ago:

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This song was written and produced 100% by AI. No vocalists. No musicians. No songwriter. No studio.

-----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6VTHSJ4is
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Bill McCloskey


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 8:55 am    
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Like any tool, there are positive and negative uses we will all have to get used to. On the plus side, AI allowed Randy Travis to release a new song which would have been impossible otherwise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM2UzZ4TVGw&t=332s
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 11:44 am    
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That's an awesome video, Bill. It shows one of the positive uses of AI. Hopefully the good will outweigh the bad. There will always be bad actors out there using AI to scam people with fake ads. On the other hand, AI will have very positive uses in science and medicine.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 4:35 pm    
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The new Randy Travis song sounds good, but when the harmony parts come in, you know something's not right. To me, it just sounds fake and artificial. And the Rick Beato videos about AI mention the same thing; that his daughter can hear the "fakeness" in an AI track immediately, but Rick (who has far more music knowledge and experience) cannot!

I think this is also the reason that pre-1975 music sounds so much more "real" and pleasing. It was about that time that the artists took a back seat to the engineers when it came to creating a record. The engineers were no longer merely recording the artist's song - they became the creators of the sound, and the artists merely supplied the basics, the "raw material", as it were.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 5:42 pm    
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The engineers were no longer merely recording the artist's song - they became the creators of the sound, and the artists merely supplied the basics, the "raw material", as it were.


Very true. I'm reminded of a session I did where the engineer and the producer "micro-managed" every note I played... and when we were done the engineer said to me "I think I have enough to work with". And he did! He chopped up my solo and pasted the sections together... it sounded like my bar jumped from fret 3 to fret 15 in a nano second, very unnatural sounding.
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 25 Jun 2024 7:03 pm    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
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The engineers were no longer merely recording the artist's song - they became the creators of the sound, and the artists merely supplied the basics, the "raw material", as it were.


Very true. I'm reminded of a session I did where the engineer and the producer "micro-managed" every note I played... and when we were done the engineer said to me "I think I have enough to work with". And he did! He chopped up my solo and pasted the sections together... it sounded like my bar jumped from fret 3 to fret 15 in a nano second, very unnatural sounding.

I thought this only happened to second-rate players like me. Now I don’t feel like such a chump! My guy wouldn’t even let me use a volume pedal. “I’ll take care of the dynamics”.

It’s not AI, but it’s not real either. And it sounds ridiculous.
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