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Topic: An MSA keyless double 10 |
Steven Black
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Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 1 May 2024 3:14 am |
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| I am not sure where to post this, but I came across a beautiful MSA double 10 keyless wood lacquer pedal steel guitar, did MSA make a double 10 keyless steel guitar? it is for sale and plays great, it is MSA all the way, it is built almost factory to be homemade, and would take too much time to build something like it, I am still planning on buying it because the price is good, just for a novelty to have around, even if it may not be an MSA, just looking for opinions, I do have pictures of it, if it is built by someone who had a lot of time on their hands cudos to you, I will post pictures of it. |
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David Wright
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Pilot Point ,Tx USA.
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Posted 1 May 2024 5:31 am
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Like to see it  |
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Bruce Derr
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Lee, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 1 May 2024 6:47 am
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| Is it perhaps a stock MSA modified with Kline tuners? (I see you're in Kline country.) |
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Steven Black
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Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 1 May 2024 8:35 am Keyless MSA double 10 reply
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| Hello Bruce, yes I like Klines too, but the undercarriage is all MSA and some of the top where the pedal changers are, it is in marketplace located in Pennsylvania, who ever built it spent a lot of time on it, even the pedal bar is MSA, and the pedals. I am at work so can't post pictures yet. |
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Pete McAvity
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St. Louis, Missouri USA
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Posted 1 May 2024 11:47 am
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I believe that Johnie King has/had a guitar that was converted to keyless at one time? Hopefully he'll chime in. It wouldn't suprise me to hear that this guitar passed though his place.
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Steven Black
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Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 1 May 2024 11:15 pm MSA keyless reply
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 1 May 2024 11:16 pm MSA keyless reply
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 1 May 2024 11:17 pm MSA keyless reply
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 1 May 2024 11:19 pm MSA keyless reply
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Steven Black
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Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 2 May 2024 2:57 am Keyless MSA double 10 reply
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| By the way this guitar is for sale on Marketplace, I don't own it, but go to Marketplace and look it up. other than that close this thread. |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 2 May 2024 5:16 am
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| Pedal Steel is the proper place to put it, not in For Sale: Steel Guitars. Moved. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 2 May 2024 10:03 am
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That's not a Kline keyless tuner assembly.
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Jason Walston
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Los Angeles, CA
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Posted 16 May 2024 7:16 am
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| are we able to confirm this is an msa? im thinking of buying this steel. |
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David Wright
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Pilot Point ,Tx USA.
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Posted 16 May 2024 7:25 am
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| Can I get the Serial number..... |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 16 May 2024 4:02 pm
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| are we able to confirm this is an msa? im thinking of buying this steel. |
I'd say it's mostly an MSA Classic. Pictures aren't great, but here's the things I noticed. The pillow blocks for the changer axles don't look to be MSA parts. (Someone made longer replacements.) It appears the changer is MSA, but the right endplate has been modified or repaired (welded), so I doubt the serial number is still visible, and that sorta makes me suspicious if it's not there. Someone did a TON of work on that guitar, but we don't know why? Also, the original finger stop-bars have been replaced with larger ones that someone also made. The guitar has adjustable return springs, but they were added later, by an owner. (I can tell this because the adjustment screw spacing is irregular, like they were hand-drilled.) MSA-Micro used CNC machines, so that wouldn't have happened if that was done at the factory. The endplates are from a mica "Classic", but there's no center support, which all the D10 Classics had, so that was probably removed when the keyless conversion was done. Pictures aren't clear enough to tell if that's the original body, but the plywood apron would seem to indicate that. Pickups aren't original, and neither are the long nylon tuners, which are visible through the hogged-out endplate cutouts. Lastly, I don't recall MSA ever using binding like that, even on their walnut body models. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 16 May 2024 4:22 pm
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It looks like someone took a lot of MSA parts, Built a Keyless Assembly, Someone also made new parts for the Changer section too, The pillow blocks for the changer axle looks long compared to MSA pillow blocks, There is a shoulder cut on the Changer pickup housing so the pillow blocks have a machined bar to hold the stress not just the 4 bolts, Like a MSA class was constructed.
I would like to actually see the guitar, It looks like a work of art. But would takes some close inspection to determine if the guitar would play and sound good. |
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