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Topic: Little Direction Please |
Brian Flook
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2024 3:24 am |
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Hello,
I've been playing guitar for nearly 50 years. I am not maestro with theory, but I can work my way around.
Decided to purchase a Fender lap steel double neck 8 string. I seem to have landed on A6 tuning. I can't find any instruction at all. Everything is C6, but even that is very limited. There is guitar material but there doesn't seem to be much lap steel stuff in A6 anywhere. Can anyone help? I prefer to not spend an arm and a leg for a beginner lesson, but I am a beginner somewhat. Just not sure where to turn.. |
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Jim Pollard
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Cedar Park, Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2024 4:39 am
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| I haven't been playing that long but I got some mileage from the Eddie Rivers videos on youtube. For instance, https://youtu.be/rARCcW3I0K4?si=zkR1shifZnmlb3qK. Don't be afraid of those C6 lessons. Everything is exactly the same for A6, just a few steps lower! Everything is very linear for steel. Same song in a different key? No problem, move the exact same patterns to the location of new key and go! Or think of it as you only have to learn one key, then apply it to whatever position is appropriate. |
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Joe A. Roberts
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Seoul, South Korea
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Posted 18 Mar 2024 5:05 am
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Hi Brian, you have come across one of the most frustrating yet most intriguing aspects of the instrument: you kind of have to forge your own path.
To expand upon what Jim has said, C6th with a high G on top has the same intervals as A6th, just pitched higher.
One easily acquired book to check out is Mastering the Lap Steel Guitar by Rob Haines, and put out by Mel Bay.
It is for C6th with a high G, but all the tab can be played on A6th I believe.
Good luck! |
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Lloyd Graves
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2024 6:56 am
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Is all of Herb Remington's stuff in A6? Or just some? One of his lesson sets was listed in the for sale section on this forum.
If you can make your way to NY this summer, Rose Sinclair is rumored to be teaching at Ashokan's Western and swing week, with that rumor being spread by Jay Ungar, himself. She'd be a great resource. |
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Samuel Phillippe
From:
Douglas Michigan, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2024 7:40 am
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Brian I started with c6 and switched to a6 did not find any problems.
All my learning was from watching video lessons on youtube. If the lesson was c6 I just relocated for a6.
Sam |
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David Matzenik
From:
Cairns, on the Coral Sea
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 18 Mar 2024 4:47 pm
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Lessons in what? specific lessons on how to hold a bar? If you have been playing for 50 years, just map out the fretboard, find your root position chords, find your scales, and start learning songs. Theory doesn't change from instrument to instrument. Just take what you already know and apply it to the A6 tuning. There is a nice app called Steel Sidekick that lets you enter your tuning and then enter chords and scales to find where all the notes are.
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Check out the Steel Guitar Union Hall Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@steelguitarunionhall |
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Lloyd Graves
From:
New York, USA
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Paul Seager
From:
Augsburg, Germany
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Posted 19 Mar 2024 3:53 am
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99% of Lap steel education is either C6 or open G, the latter almost totally focused on bluegrass material.
My own steel journey began with Cindy Cashdollar's Homespun Western Swing videos. That course focused on C6 but with a 5th (G) on top.
Few months later I acquired an 8 string, using C6 a la Cindy and joined a band. Within 3 months a change of singer forced me to go lower so I used A6. Everything I knew from Cindy's course worked, just 3 frets down. It really is a straightforward as that.
If you have a 50 years of playing guitar behind you and nothing against Western Swing, then Cindy is a good place to start!
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Bayern Hawaiians: https://www.youtube.com/@diebayernhawaiians3062
Other stuff: https://www.youtube.com/@paulseager3796/videos |
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David DeLoach
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 19 Mar 2024 4:09 am
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Doug Beaumier has teaching material for A6. It's for 6 string tuning, but will translate to 8 string.
http://playsteelguitar.com/book3-16-songs/
Doug's material is great and really helped me get started. I also used Cindy Cashdollar's Homespun lessons in C6 (with a high G) and those were great as well.
Stick with it! It's worth the journey!
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