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Wayne Baker
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Oklahoma
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Posted 23 May 2009 4:51 pm |
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I have a Dobro. I want to take the neck off. Does anyone know how I can do this???
Thanks in advance,
Wayne Baker |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 23 May 2009 5:35 pm
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It all depends which model. Dobro have been making resonator guitars for many many years now, and they're not all put together the same.
Generally speaking, guitar necks are glued. You have to insert hot steam into the joint. Luthiers do this by drilling a tiny hole into the joint and using a steam injector, which you won't have. If I were you I wouldn't even attempt to remove the neck unless you have one of the cheapo guitars which Dobro are currently putting out, and then you'll have less to lose when you mess it up.
Do you want to change the neck ? I say this because, if you don't want to reuse the old neck you can be a lot more destructive in the process and concentrate on making sure that the body doesn't get damaged or marked.
Sorry to put the damper on the project. But prewarned is pre-armed.  |
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
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Sweden
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Posted 23 May 2009 9:56 pm If it´s a square neck You´ve got...
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The trad Dobro necks are not set(glued-in);a neck
extension,long or short pole,is inserted from the
heel-side and rests on a block inside ; to take the
neck off,You have to remove 2 or 4 of the highest
position dots to get to the screws that secure the
fretboard to the top of the guitar.McUtsi |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 25 May 2009 9:47 am
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| you will also have to pull the cover plate and take out the cone to access the end of the neck which has an extension which connects to a block of wood to set the neck angle. then the neck should slide right out. |
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Bryan Bradfield
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Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.
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Posted 25 May 2009 5:10 pm
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| To add to what Ulric & Chris just said, I would pop out the pearl dots on frets 15 & 19, 2 dots at each fret, remove the 4 flat-head wood-screws, then remove the neck rod screw, and then just gently rock the neck downwards ever so slightly so that the fretboard extension will lift. This will ensure that there is separation of the fretboard extension from the top of the guitar. |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 25 May 2009 7:19 pm
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Are all Dobros screwed together like that ? The one I have looks like it's glued.
I've thought for a long time that all guitars should have bolted-on necks. Those Dovetail joints may be a work of art, but they're a devil of a job to separate. |
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Bryan Bradfield
From:
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.
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Posted 25 May 2009 7:42 pm
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Alan -
If one was committed to removing a resophonic guitar's neck, one would remove the coverplate and cone first. That would allow a look at the method of attachment in the interior. I've not looked into the innards of any imports, or any modern American makes, but all of the pre-war (WWII) American-made resophonics I've looked at have had neck rods coming into the bodies, rather than dove-tail neck joints. |
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Wayne Baker
From:
Oklahoma
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Posted 26 May 2009 8:15 am Dobro Neck Removal
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Awesome. Thanks for the help guys. Gibson said it would cost $1100 to reset the neck. I don't really have an extra $1100 laying around. Although I would love to be able to send it to them, I think, or hope I can do it my self.
Wayne Baker |
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Bryan Bradfield
From:
Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.
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Posted 26 May 2009 9:19 am
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A neck reset MIGHT be very simple. In a traditional dobro, the neck rod extension is screwed (one screw) to a block that is glued to the back. Often, there is a shim between the rod and the block. The screw then runs through the shim. In fact, the factory used shims in a variety of spots to speed parts alignments, including the body opening where the neck rod goes into the body. It's been stated that the 3 holes in the top between the cover plate and the fingerboard were there so that one could insert a screw driver through the middle hole, while manipulating a shim held by tweezers through one of the outer holes.
Anyway, if the guitar neck has pitched forward, creating a larger spacing between neck and strings than is desired, the fix would be to insert a shim, or larger shim between neck rod extension and the block on the back.
There would be no need to remove the pearl dots or screws in the fretboard. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 26 May 2009 11:13 am
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| on my 1975 model 60N squareneck dobro there is a wooden shim between the block inside and the neck extender piece.loosen the screw that goes through the neck piece and hole in shim. the shim is wedge shaped so as you tap it in to get the fatter shim under the joint, it pulls the neck tighter against the body. really very simple when you look at it. i can't believe gibson would rip someone off for $1100 for this...oh...yes i can.. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 26 May 2009 12:41 pm
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I've had a couple 60D OMI squarenecks apart. The necks were not glued in. A long neck stick or spline inserted into the body with a bolt or a screw to hold it.
I replaced the neck shim on one of them to straighten out the neck alignment. It was easy. The spline is in plain sight after removing the cone. Just took out the
screw, pulled out the shim and put in a thicker one.
I didn't know there were any screws holding it to the top...it felt like I could just lift the whole thing out of the pocket. I defer to the other guys who refer to fretboard screws though. If that is the case, I suppose too much adjustment could cause the top to belly out?
Unless it has already been done, this might be a good time to make sure the spider and cone mate well and to do any other mods or upgrades you might be considering.
Caution on reassembly: Be careful not to tighten the cone tension screw too tight. The aluminum cones are pretty fragile and easy to damage.
Here is some info from Stewart McDonald re: cone/spider assembly, setup, etc. Best of Luck
http://www.stewmac.com/freeinfo/instrument/Resonator_guitar/String_action_and_setup.html |
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Wayne Baker
From:
Oklahoma
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Posted 2 Jun 2009 9:28 am Dobro Fixed
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Hey guys, this really worked out well. I removed the wedged shim, pushed it back a little, driiled a new hole, and problem solved. I appreciate all the advice.
Wayne |
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
From:
Sweden
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Posted 3 Jun 2009 1:35 am
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Good to hear,Wayne...the trad Dobro design is really
a style apart...keep up the good work,and play on,
and on...McUtsi |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2009 8:58 am
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| Interesting thread! My 1935 Dobro model M-32, is a metal bodied guitar. It has a "dowel stick," and screws. My 1937 wood bodied Dobro( Regal made) has a glued in neck, with a dovetail joint. Both are roundnecks. |
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Bryan Bradfield
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Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.
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Posted 3 Jun 2009 1:47 pm
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| My late 1930's model 27 Regal, originally a round neck, had a neck dowel stick, screwed to the block on the back, and of course as a square neck conversion uses a dowel stick. |
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Madeline Dietrich
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2024 9:32 am
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I came across this thread while searching for solutions for the neck separating slightly from the body of my 1990 Dobro Hound Dog. I wasn't able to visualize exactly what it looks like based on the helpful descriptions above, so I snapped a couple of pics while I was working on mine in case someone in the future ends up reading this thread. I ended up adding a shim under the wedge to add height. The adjustment was enough to close the gap between the heel and neck, and it sounds as good as it did before I started messing around with it.
In truth, I actually did make a new wedge using a hack saw, vise and sandpaper, and made it longer in case I would need to move it in further someday. But my new wedge ended up only barely thicker than the original (after 30 minutes of destroying a picture frame for the wood--I always try to do these things with material on hand, and this all in my living room and I had dinged my knuckle pretty good with the hack saw), and by then I was tired of trying to do semi-precision work with a hacksaw) so I ended up using a shim along with the wedge. Not my best work but satisfactory. |
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 8 Feb 2024 11:35 am
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| I ended up adding a shim under the wedge to add height. The adjustment was enough to close the gap between the heel and neck, and it sounds as good as it did before I started messing around with it. |
I did the same thing to an '88 60D several years ago. Not as severe as yours but still did the trick. |
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Eric Dahlhoff
From:
Point Arena, California
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Posted 8 Feb 2024 9:51 pm
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Much THANKS for posting this!
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