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Larry Moore


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Hampton, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2022 2:01 pm    
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Can some help me identify this Pickup:







Thanks for any help
Larry
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2022 2:25 pm    
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XR-16 and 710 are identical looking so I can't tell which it is but it's one of those two.
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2022 4:12 pm    
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Probably a 710. I've had several 710s, and they all had 2 wires. I've had 2 XR-16s,and they both had 3 wires with one being red and able to be wired to a switch to change it from humbucker to single coil, like I did on a Mullen I had and have on the E9 neck of my Carter.
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Chris Tarrow


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Maplewood, NJ
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2022 4:14 pm    
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My 710 has 3 wires
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ajm

 

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Los Angeles
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2022 9:12 am    
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For anyone that either has both models, or has kept records: Is there a difference in resistance measurements between them?
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2022 9:51 am    
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Chris Tarrow wrote:
My 710 has 3 wires


I've heard that were some, but all 8 I have owned, some brand new, only had a black and white wire. I think you had to order the split coil option for the third wire, which was usually red.
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Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2022 10:21 am    
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I bought and subsequently sold a XR16 that only had two wires. One black, one white.

I was always under the impression that the XR16 was a heavier wound pickup than the 710. MR. Bill always said that DC resistance could vary a lot and he used inductance, henries etc. measurements to build his pickups.

If it doesn't have a marked label on it with the model #, it may be hard to identify it.

For more confusion on the topic, read this recent thread:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=365093&highlight=710
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Larry Moore


From:
Hampton, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2022 5:09 pm     Bill Lawrence Humbucker Pickup
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I have BL-710 on my Emmons LG-2 and they measure with my Ohms Meter 18.8 / 19.0.
this pickup in the picture measures 29.3 Ohms
So would there be that much in the BL-710's or maybe a special order ??
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Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2022 5:29 pm    
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I certainly wouldn't expect to see that big a variance. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say from what I have read here the pickup in question must be an XR16.

I'm playing a Carter that I know has an XR16 but it's not where I am right now else I would measure it for comparison.
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Larry Moore


From:
Hampton, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2022 7:25 pm    
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Jerry Thanks for the reply.
let me know if you can measure yours if they are close let me know.

Thanks.
Larry
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Graham Bland

 

From:
Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2022 6:09 pm     Bill Lawrence hum bucking picup
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Larry, whatever you do don’t put a 705 on the guitar…I put on on a 1968 push pull guitar and it killed the sound and tone of the guitar and immediately switched it back….the 710 or XR16 will probably work much better!…I know you are a PP guy….I have talk to you before at the INSGC. And I remember you telling me how much you loved PP guitars!…
Hope you are well my friend!
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Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2022 6:18 pm    
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Yes Larry, I will measure the DC resistance when I get to where it is. It's probably going to be a week or two though. Sorry.
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Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2022 6:08 am    
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Larry, I was able to measure the DC resistance on that XR16 in the Carter guitar. It measures about 30.5K ohms. Hope this helps you i.d. your pickup.
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