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Scott Swartz


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St. Louis, MO
Post  Posted 26 Nov 2022 1:07 pm    
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I am working on a part where the 5th string A# (lowered from B of course) is sounding sharp. I use a slight tweak of the Newman chart for tuning, and that shows it at +10 cents same as the open Es, which would give an equal tempered flat fifth interval between those two notes.

I guess the other choice is tune it just tempered with the open F#, which would be -5 cents on my chart, 12 cents below my F# at +7 cents.

I am wondering what others are using for tempering this note.
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2022 2:28 pm    
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go low
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Pete Burak

 

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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2022 4:06 pm    
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Maybe try going back one fret with the F-lever and B-pedal and see how it sounds.
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 27 Nov 2022 3:06 am    
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On my "JE9" Peterson program, that is a combination of the SE9 plus pedals/knees (and some common changes that weren't around when Newman created his chart) I tune the B string A# lower to +9.8.

Worked for me on a Franklin and two GFI's, and from reports others that are using my JE9.

Always sounded right when I used that on the Together Again lick.
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Steve Mueller

 

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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2022 8:03 am    
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My E9 is a 12 string extended tuning, not universal, but I tune the A# as a perfect JI interval with the 4th string D# lower. Goes nicely with strings 8 thru 1 forming an F# 6/9 or 7/9. I love that change. I haven't measured the cents but it's a lot lower than ET with the E.
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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Post  Posted 27 Nov 2022 2:54 pm    
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The 5th string tuning seems to be by Copendent.

When I started playing steel, A friend gave me a Copendent for the E9th tuning. The 5th string lower was from B +8 to A# +2.

Here on the Forum under Links at top of page. Then to Jeff Newman's Copendents.
In Newman's E9th Tuning Chart it shows the 5th string lower from B +8 to A# +10.
In Newman's E9th/B6 Universal Chart it is shows the 5th string lowering B +8 to A# +2.
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