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Topic: If you could switch one note. |
Carey Hofer
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South Dakota, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2022 4:11 pm |
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| I play 8 string C6th. ACEGACEG LOW TO HIGH. For you C6th players, if you were to permanently change one note on one string, on this tuning, what would you do? |
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 4 Jul 2022 4:15 pm
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| I don't do it permanently, but I often toggle the 7th string C to C# for C/A. I've gone back and forth between those two in the middle of a song. |
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Carey Hofer
From:
South Dakota, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2022 5:12 pm
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Oh I forgot to add. . . And why?  |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2022 5:28 pm
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The low A to a Bb ; simply a flat7 tone in root position. Root note in maj7/9 position(two frets up from root position). Suspended note or 4th tone in 5 chord position....I can go on and on...but you'll get it.
Ricky
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 4 Jul 2022 5:51 pm
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Why C6/A7 for me is that it gives the A7#9 on the bottom 6 strings, which sets up a different set of pockets that I find useful for blues, rock, funk, and less swing-oriented jazz. I think it's an important change on C6 pedal steel.
Of course, there are a number of one-string re-tunes that can extend the usefulness of the tuning. The nice thing about just re-tuning one string is that it's easy to go back and forth quickly. |
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Carey Hofer
From:
South Dakota, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2022 7:59 pm
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| I was thinking the same thing, tuning the low C up to a C#. Tuning the low A down to a Bb, that one will take a little more thought (for me anyway) to see the possibilities. Good suggestions though. Being a newer player, even though I play jazz on guitar, it takes me awhile to translate the theory to steel. |
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Paul Seager
From:
Augsburg, Germany
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Posted 5 Jul 2022 5:26 am
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I've tried the dom 7 on the 8th string for songs that have a lot of those chords and found that useful on the upper frets but too muddy on the lower positions.
I've also occasionally dropped the 8th string a tone to become a 5th. I found this useful when one needs a stronger major chord and less 6 chord. I can't say I hit that string on every chord but found the chord sound to be generally stronger so maybe some natural resonance helped.
\paul |
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Allan Revich
From:
Victoria, BC
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Posted 5 Jul 2022 7:54 am
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| Carey Hofer wrote: |
| I was thinking the same thing, tuning the low C up to a C#. Tuning the low A down to a Bb, that one will take a little more thought (for me anyway) to see the possibilities. Good suggestions though. Being a newer player, even though I play jazz on guitar, it takes me awhile to translate the theory to steel. |
Raising the C to C# gives you a C6 + A7 like Jerry Byrd liked. You get Am7 & A7 and the C chords.
Raising the A to Bb gives you C13 tuning. This gives you dominant 7 chords in addition to majors, sixes, and minor 7ths. Try both, see which you prefer.
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Current Tunings:
6 String | G – D G D G B D
7 String | G9 – D G B D F A D
https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Bob Watson
From:
Champaign, Illinois, U.S.
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Posted 5 Jul 2022 6:27 pm
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| I like to use 13th chords and #9 chords and both of the popular one string changes, the C to C# or the A to Bb, will give you the triad used to get these chords. I prefer the A to Bb, as it still gives me a nice 7 string C6 tuning, but both of them work well and are easy enough to check out. |
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George Piburn
From:
The Land of Enchantment New Mexico
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Andrew Frost
From:
Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 6 Jul 2022 2:35 pm
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Yes the D on top instead of G opens the tuning up a bit.
Another thing would be to lose the G entirely, shift everything up a slot, and put F on the bottom.
Great for many things, primarily all the Cma7/9 voicings in the V position. |
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Carey Hofer
From:
South Dakota, USA
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Posted 6 Jul 2022 6:19 pm
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Have to think about that one. In all honesty I spend just as much time looking at, thinking about and analyzing my steel as I do playing it!  |
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