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Carey Hofer

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2022 4:11 pm    
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I play 8 string C6th. ACEGACEG LOW TO HIGH. For you C6th players, if you were to permanently change one note on one string, on this tuning, what would you do?
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Dave Mudgett


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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
Post  Posted 4 Jul 2022 4:15 pm    
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I don't do it permanently, but I often toggle the 7th string C to C# for C/A. I've gone back and forth between those two in the middle of a song.
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Carey Hofer

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2022 5:12 pm    
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Oh I forgot to add. . . And why? Smile
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Ricky Davis


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Buda, Texas USA
Post  Posted 4 Jul 2022 5:28 pm    
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The low A to a Bb ; simply a flat7 tone in root position. Root note in maj7/9 position(two frets up from root position). Suspended note or 4th tone in 5 chord position....I can go on and on...but you'll get it.
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Dave Mudgett


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2022 5:51 pm    
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Why C6/A7 for me is that it gives the A7#9 on the bottom 6 strings, which sets up a different set of pockets that I find useful for blues, rock, funk, and less swing-oriented jazz. I think it's an important change on C6 pedal steel.

Of course, there are a number of one-string re-tunes that can extend the usefulness of the tuning. The nice thing about just re-tuning one string is that it's easy to go back and forth quickly.
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Carey Hofer

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2022 7:59 pm    
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I was thinking the same thing, tuning the low C up to a C#. Tuning the low A down to a Bb, that one will take a little more thought (for me anyway) to see the possibilities. Good suggestions though. Being a newer player, even though I play jazz on guitar, it takes me awhile to translate the theory to steel.
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Paul Seager


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Augsburg, Germany
Post  Posted 5 Jul 2022 5:26 am    
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I've tried the dom 7 on the 8th string for songs that have a lot of those chords and found that useful on the upper frets but too muddy on the lower positions.

I've also occasionally dropped the 8th string a tone to become a 5th. I found this useful when one needs a stronger major chord and less 6 chord. I can't say I hit that string on every chord but found the chord sound to be generally stronger so maybe some natural resonance helped.

\paul
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Allan Revich


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Victoria, Canada
Post  Posted 5 Jul 2022 7:54 am    
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Carey Hofer wrote:
I was thinking the same thing, tuning the low C up to a C#. Tuning the low A down to a Bb, that one will take a little more thought (for me anyway) to see the possibilities. Good suggestions though. Being a newer player, even though I play jazz on guitar, it takes me awhile to translate the theory to steel.


Raising the C to C# gives you a C6 + A7 like Jerry Byrd liked. You get Am7 & A7 and the C chords.

Raising the A to Bb gives you C13 tuning. This gives you dominant 7 chords in addition to majors, sixes, and minor 7ths. Try both, see which you prefer.
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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 5 Jul 2022 4:59 pm    
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I too am in the C to C# camp.
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Bob Watson


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Champaign, Illinois, U.S.
Post  Posted 5 Jul 2022 6:27 pm    
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I like to use 13th chords and #9 chords and both of the popular one string changes, the C to C# or the A to Bb, will give you the triad used to get these chords. I prefer the A to Bb, as it still gives me a nice 7 string C6 tuning, but both of them work well and are easy enough to check out.
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George Piburn


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The Land of Enchantment New Mexico
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2022 4:25 am     D on Top
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How about a D in place of the high G

to create the Chromatic that was used by Emmons Robinson Anderson and so many others.

Making it a 7 string with the outside chromatic.
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Andrew Frost


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Toronto, Ontario
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2022 2:35 pm    
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Yes the D on top instead of G opens the tuning up a bit.
Another thing would be to lose the G entirely, shift everything up a slot, and put F on the bottom.
Great for many things, primarily all the Cma7/9 voicings in the V position.
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Carey Hofer

 

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South Dakota, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2022 6:19 pm    
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Have to think about that one. In all honesty I spend just as much time looking at, thinking about and analyzing my steel as I do playing it! Laughing
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