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Bradshaw Pack

 

From:
British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 23 Jun 2022 11:01 am    
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To All:

I have two beautiful ZumSteel 12 strings from the mid-eighties. When I record both guitars there is a buzzing high sibilant-like effect on the high F# ands G#. I am asking if anyone out there has experienced this, and if so, what can be done about it. It is really annoying, especially in the recording process.

Thank you in advance for considering this,

Bradshaw
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 23 Jun 2022 2:19 pm    
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Put a drop of oil on the nut rollers of those two strings, and see if that helps. If not, shift the strings slightly on the changer by pushing them away from the center of the finger, and see if that makes any difference.
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 23 Jun 2022 7:13 pm    
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If you have a dial caliper loosen the strings till you can move the string over to the side, And measure the diameter of the rollers on the first 3 strings. If a larger diameter roller has been put in the 3rd string slot. The bar may not be contacting the 1st and 2nd string with enough pressure to keep them in firm contact with the bar.
Good Luck getting the guitar happy, Then you will be happy.
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Michael Hill

 

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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 25 Jun 2022 12:12 pm    
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I remember one time when my string 3 sounded like a sitar. Higher up the neck it became even more pronounced. I tried reseating it but that didn't help. I changed the string and the problem went away.
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Tucker Jackson

 

From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 25 Jun 2022 12:45 pm    
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Michael Hill wrote:
I remember one time when my string 3 sounded like a sitar. Higher up the neck it became even more pronounced. I tried reseating it but that didn't help. I changed the string and the problem went away.

Good move. Often, that sitar sound that suddenly develops means the string is about to break.
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 25 Jun 2022 1:58 pm    
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I work on many many many pedal steel guitars through the years; and anytime I have that problem, I do exactly what Donny Hinson just said.
Ricky
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Ian Rae


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Redditch, England
Post  Posted 25 Jun 2022 4:18 pm    
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What Michael and Tucker say is also true. It's an audible sign of aging. Usually happens to me on 4 first as that takes the most punishment.

Apart from the wear from the picks which causes uneven density you also get work hardening at the suspension points. Followed by death Smile
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 26 Jun 2022 12:19 pm    
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Where the string bends over the changer finger the string will work hardens with every raise and lower, And will not pull back down in tight contact with the changer finger. This causes the Sitar and other weird sounds. The next step is the string breaks.
Some strings will sound good and last a long time, Other strings will go bad very quickly.
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Ian Rae


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Redditch, England
Post  Posted 26 Jun 2022 3:54 pm    
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It's a miracle these darn things work at all! Smile
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