C6 set up question

Dave Meis · From: Olympic Peninsula, Washington, USA

D-10 with 8 pedals..extra pedal is not an option. I use 4 for E9, leaving 4 for C6. My options are:
A) Double duty for pedal 4, which is unfavorable as I use the C pedal a LOT..
B) Do without pedal 4 on C6..
C) Do without a different pedal..
Seems that there has been a move away from pedal 4?
I play a lot of non-pedal as well, and I use a lot of slants, so maybe that would figure in?

I know you guys don't like to offer opinions, but.. Laughing

Thanks guys!

Ken Pippus · From: Langford, BC, Canada

Adding pulls to a â€œCâ€ pedal gets pretty stiff, pretty fast. Lots of guys do without pedal 4, but I find it pretty useful.

scott murray · From: Asheville, NC

I would just go with standard pedals 5-8 and probably add a single half-step raise on string 6 (E to F) to pedal 4 (Buddy did this for awhile).

if you've got levers on the right knee, I'd raise and lower string 3 (C) a half-step, the lower being the more vital of the 2. if you've got two more levers on the left knee, I'd raise and lower string 4 (A) a half-step, the raise being more vital.
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Pete Burak · From: Portland, OR USA

No decision has to be permanent.
Unless you already use the C6th pedal-4 as much as 5-8, I would go without that pedal for now.

Dave Meis · From: Olympic Peninsula, Washington, USA

I DO have 4 levers, but I have great feel stops on 2 of them, and wouldnâ€™t want to mess those up, so, I could use 2 of them. Those are usually raise 4 and lower 3, but the addition of 1 pull to my C pedal may work! Thanks !

Dan Beller-McKenna · From: Durham, New Hampshire, USA

Highly unconventional, but I put standard pedal 5 on a knee (RKL) and use pedal 5 to raise strings 7 and 3 a half-step (C-C#). Works very well for me, but I'm used to it (and now can't play a standard C6 copedant!)

Peter Roush · From: Ohio, USA

You say there is a move away from pedal 4 on C6 (Strings 4 and 7). I don't use them much and I wonder why so many steels come with that. Does anyone know of a recording that would demonstrate this, or could explain a chord or lick this would be useful for?

John Poston · From: Albuquerque, NM, USA

I gave up trad P4 but miss the cool sound of raising 4 for the Maj7 note rubbing against the root 1/2 step up on string 3.

Also cool is hold down P5 and rock on/off P4 for a real typical rock/boogie rhythm. I think Herb Steiner bring this one up a lot. Can be done with some bar movement instead but not as easy/cleanly.

Roger Rettig · From: Naples, FL

Back in 2000, I sat and watched Buddy Emmons do a sound-check prior to an Everly Brothers show. He was, of course, a joy to listen to.

Afterwards, and because I'd only just got my new D-10 Emmons, I pulled him aside and asked: "What do you have on pedal-4 on that guitar?"

His reply? "I don't know - let's have a look!" It turned out that it had the normal A to B raise (this was his black LeGrande), but I was struck by the fact that, during over an hour of random and self-indulgent playing, he couldn't have touched that pedal!

Maybe a lesson for us all?
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