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Topic: On the bench: 2 neck gibson EH 150: finished |
John McClung
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 24 May 2021 11:40 am
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Really nice photos, Xavier, keep 'em coming. Where did you get pickups? _________________ E9 INSTRUCTION
▪️ If you want to have an ongoing discussion, please email me, don't use the Forum messaging which I detest! steelguitarlessons@earthlink.net |
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Dennis Saydak
From: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted 24 May 2021 2:45 pm
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Here's another option 4 U to consider. This a picture of my sq. neck "Dobro". It has wood veneer fret markers installed in the grooves rather than fret wire.
_________________ Dennis
Just when you think you're getting ahead in the rat race, the rats get faster. |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 25 May 2021 9:21 am
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I was thinking about wood veener, but it would keep the color in case I decide to tint the wood in black.
Finally, I found 2 pieces of white plastic ABS binding? 1/4 wide, .5 mm thick.
Cut in two to get twice the length
Then glued in place with slow curing clear epoxy. (picture taken before applying the glue)
Soon to be leveled
And I think I'll let the litchi wood natural/clear finish. |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 26 May 2021 3:07 pm
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The first fretboard is leveled.
It looks... let's say, not so bad
Here's the look of the wet wood.
A nice caramel color that will darken with age
Here's how it will look later, as the explorer I built last year: mahogany with litchi wood top:
The second fretboard will receive black horn dots... not enough white MOP ones available |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 27 May 2021 3:10 pm
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John McClung wrote: |
Really nice photos, Xavier, keep 'em coming. Where did you get pickups? |
John, just ordered them from Pete at vintagevibeguitars.com about 3 weeks ago. Still waiting... |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 30 May 2021 7:32 pm
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Fretboards bound.
Time to chamber the body:
I screwed the back in place then routed till I exposed it through the body
Then routed the body with the template in place
The back will receive a white binding.
I recut the headstock angle to 7.5 degrees, adding a piece of wood under the headstock:
and bandsaws it:
Final shape was done with a handplane (top) spinning sander (back), after glueing the litchi wood veneers.
Here we are now
Waiting for the quilted maple top to come here in FP... |
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Glenn Wilde
From: California, USA
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Posted 30 May 2021 8:15 pm
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Looking great man. |
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David Dawson
From: Texas, USA
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Posted 31 May 2021 3:48 am
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To prevent bleeding of epoxy into neighboring wood, try (experiment on scrap) a coat of sanding sealer before cutting slots for filler. While you are experimenting, you might try the sealer after cutting slots instead/also.
Good luck. |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 1 Jun 2021 9:09 am
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First router pass on the two necks:
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 3 Jun 2021 10:34 am
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Back binding channel routed:
I began to glue the 2 mm ABS white binding... really stiff untill heated.
Superglue with some baking soda solution in the channel as homemade accelerator.
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 4 Jun 2021 9:23 am
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Back binding job done
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Bill Groner
From: QUAKERTOWN, PA
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Posted 4 Jun 2021 10:39 am
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Very,very nice work! _________________ Currently own, 6 Groner-tone lap steels, one 1953 Alamo Lap steel, Roland Cube, Fender Champion 40 |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 6 Jun 2021 4:09 pm
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The tenon and mortises are cut.
Will have to deal with the headstock that are not perfectly level (2-3 mm)
Waiting for the quilted maple top now |
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Joe Cook
From: Lake Osoyoos, WA
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Posted 7 Jun 2021 10:12 am
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Very nice, Xavier! Can't wait to see the completed instrument. |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 7 Jun 2021 8:18 pm
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Thanks!
Waiting for so many materials...
I have time enough to french polish the back.
I've tried everything, Shellac is unbeatable to enhance the woods. Not so hard but really easy fix finish.
Here are the very first coats of shellac:
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Brian Evans
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 8 Jun 2021 7:24 am
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Do the screw holes around the perimiter stay in, or will they get filled? |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 8 Jun 2021 9:22 am
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Brian Evans wrote: |
Do the screw holes around the perimiter stay in, or will they get filled? |
I'll try to find more attractive screws, but they'll stay apparent. |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 14 Jun 2021 12:31 pm
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I ordered today the custom nuts and bridges from Rukavina guitars. They will be 14.5 mm heigh, with a strings clearance of 9.5 mm (3/8")over the 5 mm fretboards.
The cost for the bridges covers is really too high ($150) for just a cosmetic effect that will interfere with my (poor) palm muting technique... |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 17 Jun 2021 12:33 pm
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Hi guys,
Some news.
began the necks shaping. Not so work to do there...
And some french polish on the fretboards, too...
I will shorten the heels to match the original. |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 17 Jun 2021 12:40 pm
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I have a question about tunings:
One of the neck will receive a C6 /B11 tuning, I'd like to tune the other in open D/G. What about the 7 strings tuning in open G or D ? |
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Allan Revich
From: Victoria, BC
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Posted 17 Jun 2021 2:39 pm
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Xavier Baron wrote: |
I have a question about tunings:
One of the neck will receive a C6 /B11 tuning, I'd like to tune the other in open D/G. What about the 7 strings tuning in open G or D ? |
Here are a couple options:
Open D: D F# A D F# A D
Open D7: D A D F# A C D or D A C D F# A D
I am actually using D A D F# A C D as my 7 string blues tuning. I’m sure you’ll get a lot of suggestions for fancier, more versatile tunings, but if you’re looking for a straight-ahead blues & rock tuning… _________________ Current Tunings:
6 String | G – D G D G B D
7 String | G9 – D G B D F A D
https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 18 Jun 2021 9:40 am
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Allan Revich wrote: |
Xavier Baron wrote: |
I have a question about tunings:
One of the neck will receive a C6 /B11 tuning, I'd like to tune the other in open D/G. What about the 7 strings tuning in open G or D ? |
Here are a couple options:
Open D: D F# A D F# A D
Open D7: D A D F# A C D or D A C D F# A D
I am actually using D A D F# A C D as my 7 string blues tuning. I’m sure you’ll get a lot of suggestions for fancier, more versatile tunings, but if you’re looking for a straight-ahead blues & rock tuning… |
Thanks Allen, that's a good starting point for me.
I may tune one in C6 and the other one in C6 high G, too...
Heels shortened!
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 18 Jun 2021 2:21 pm
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Good news, the quilted maple top is on the way, and the pickups are under customs clearance! |
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Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 18 Jun 2021 4:24 pm
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Xavier Baron wrote: |
Back binding channel routed:
I began to glue the 2 mm ABS white binding... really stiff untill heated.
Superglue with some baking soda solution in the channel as homemade accelerator.
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I don’t recommend super glue for initial binding install. You should have used a glue with acetone in it.....basically airplane glue. When you use duco cement, the binding softens and melts into the wood pores. Over time it moves better with the wood and tightens the bond. Super glue is ok for a binding repair, but most luthiers do not use it for the initial binding install. Your mileage may vary. Best to you in your fine build. |
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Xavier Baron
From: Mahina, Tahiti
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Posted 20 Jun 2021 1:38 pm
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Some neck shaping:
And some general views of the build:
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