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Topic: Emmons 'E' clips? |
Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 21 Apr 2021 4:10 am |
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(Or 'C' clips? Not sure what they should be called...)
I finally get my LeGrande back later this week! I haven't played in a year, and I haven't seen my guitar since I shipped it from England back in January. The last thing I do recall, though, is that the clip securing the 4th string 'lower' had somehow disappeared.
I KNOW I used to have a stash of these clips but now they're nowhere to be found. Where can I get some more, please?
I'm going to want to get back playing as soon as I can!
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Ben Lawson
From:
Brooksville Florida
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Posted 21 Apr 2021 5:36 am
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| Check with Billy Knowles in Kenansville, North Carolina. |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 21 Apr 2021 5:37 am
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Of course, Ben. Good idea - thanks.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2021 6:21 am
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| Big box hardware stores (Lowe’s, Home Depot) typically have them in the specialty drawers in the hardware section. |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 21 Apr 2021 6:32 am
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I didn't know that, Roger. Makes sense, I suppose - they're probably widely used in plenty of non-PSG applications.
The trouble is, I don't have a spare one here to compare with what I'd buy.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 21 Apr 2021 9:31 am
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These should be what you need: https://www.grainger.com/product/FABORY-Retaining-Ring-41MH87. A pack of 50 for $1.42. I bought a pack of these for my '98 LL II, perfect fit. The rods are .109", or 7/64", the groove diameter is .076", clips are .015" thick.
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2021 5:53 pm
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There is a lot of places like Ace Hardware, Lowes and other Stores that sell E Clips, But check very close. Many are to thick. Like Ian Worley stated they must be .015 thick to fit in the groves on the Emmons rods.
Take a Dial Caliper with you shopping. Many do not state the thickness on their description. |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 22 Apr 2021 4:33 am
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Many thanks to everyone for the detailed and helpful replies.
I know that this is, relatively speaking, an extremely minor 'fix' (popping on a new E-clip), but I still get nervous, even at the prospect of tackling it. It's nice down here at the bottom-left-hand corner of sunny FL, but it's an awfully long way from the nearest steel-tech!
Anyway, I now have all the info I need - I'm much obliged to you all.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Michael Yahl
From:
Troy, Texas!
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 22 Apr 2021 4:13 pm
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Michael, the later model LeGrande clips are smaller than the item you linked. The rods themselves are 7/64", so the groove is smaller.
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Michael Yahl
From:
Troy, Texas!
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Posted 22 Apr 2021 5:43 pm
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Yes Ian, the groove is smaller. A 7/64"(.109") e-clip is sized to fit a .080" diameter groove according to Rotor-Clip, who is the largest manufacturer of all these small e-clips, internal and external snap rings. A 1/4" snap ring fits the groove on a 1/4" shaft and so forth. These are the same e-clips that Billy Knowles told me he uses.
Here is a link to a data sheet
https://glhblob1.blob.core.windows.net/images/CatalogPages/Retaining-Rings/E-Clip.pdf
Michael
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"Don't fergit to kiss yer horse!"
'72 Sho-Bud Professional D10, (in pieces .....), '78 MSA Classic XL D10, '69 Emmons PP, Fender 2000
Peavey Session 500 BW, Crate Digital Modeling Amp
PSG PARTS
http://www.psgparts.com/ |
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 22 Apr 2021 6:57 pm
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| Michael Yahl wrote: |
Yes Ian, the groove is smaller. A 7/64"(.109") e-clip is sized to fit a .080" diameter groove according to Rotor-Clip, who is the largest manufacturer of all these small e-clips, internal and external snap rings. A 1/4" snap ring fits the groove on a 1/4" shaft and so forth. These are the same e-clips that Billy Knowles told me he uses.
Here is a link to a data sheet
https://glhblob1.blob.core.windows.net/images/CatalogPages/Retaining-Rings/E-Clip.pdf
Michael |
Michael, what I was commenting on is what it says on the product page you linked on your website, which is different than what you're saying here:
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| "These clip rings are sized for Ø.125" rods and fit in a Ø.109" x .029" wide groove." |
It says the clips are for .125" rod, w/ .109 groove diameter and .029 width. I'm not trying to bust your chops here, just trying to help a brother out. I just measured a stock clip on my LeGrande and one of the replacements again. They are the same, they most (very) closely match item "SE-011" on the spec sheet you linked, both are .015" thick, with a "Df" dimension of about .076" +/-
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Michael Yahl
From:
Troy, Texas!
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Posted 22 Apr 2021 7:09 pm
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Ian, you are the first one to catch that in over 6 years!
I've corrected the copy on the web page to reflect the actual dimensions that they should be. That page was copied from one of the snap ring pages. None of the 3 dimensions stated were correct aside from the fact that it does fit the 7/64" rods.
I ALWAYS appreciate being corrected. I hope that anyone that finds discrepancies such as that brings it to my attention immediately.
Thank you Ian for that catch.
Michael
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"Don't fergit to kiss yer horse!"
'72 Sho-Bud Professional D10, (in pieces .....), '78 MSA Classic XL D10, '69 Emmons PP, Fender 2000
Peavey Session 500 BW, Crate Digital Modeling Amp
PSG PARTS
http://www.psgparts.com/ |
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Willie Sims
From:
PADUCAH, KY, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2021 9:23 am
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| WHY WORRY WITH E CLIPS,GET THE THIN SPRING PUSH ON NUT/S IN THE CORRECT SIZE.EASEY TO INSALL, AMD REMOVE, |
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