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Bill Lowe
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Posted 1 Apr 2021 10:34 am |
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Can someone please tell me about Emmons factory cards and how they get updated. How can we(Emmons owners and fans) see these. If nobody can ever see them I think they would be useless. Is there anybody that updates these cards? I have heard them mentioned before but no explnation is offered and the subject is always quickly changed with an insult added. Can somebody please understand it for me.
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Stu Schulman
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Posted 1 Apr 2021 10:42 am
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Bill,I may have one in a few days,If I do I'll send you a photo.
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Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 9:01 am
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Why would anyone care? I’ve never seen one and Mr Cass has worked on several guitars for me way back before I figured out how to work on my own.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Ian Worley
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Sacramento, CA
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 10:46 am
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The factory cards are stored in the secret black vaults in front of the factory, now cleverly disguised as an HVAC shop.
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 11:18 am
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| Ian Worley wrote: |
The factory cards are stored in the secret black vaults in front of the factory, now cleverly disguised as an HVAC shop.
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A newly built guitar was delivered in January, but not from the HVAC place as you suspect.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Colin Swinney
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 11:28 am
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| So is Emmons in business then and new guitars can be ordered? |
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Bill Lowe
From:
Connecticut
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 12:05 pm
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I wonder if there were any ordered and never delivered? Maybe the new Emmons maker can fix that
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JCH D10, 71 D10 P/p fat back, Telonics TCA 500C--12-,Fender JBL Twin, Josh Swift signature. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 3:48 pm
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Bill, my little Emmons GS-10 showed up today,with an Emmons card,I'm bringing it to Jon Light's tomorrow I will post a photo.
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Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Bill Lowe
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Connecticut
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 4:14 pm
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JCH D10, 71 D10 P/p fat back, Telonics TCA 500C--12-,Fender JBL Twin, Josh Swift signature. |
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Doug Earnest
From:
Branson, MO USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 5:56 pm
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| So if a guitar is newly built, but not by the owner of the trademark or his agent, what would that be called? If I found a basket of NOS Bigsby parts and built a new guitar would it be a Bigsby?? |
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 5 Apr 2021 6:15 pm
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| Steve Schmidt wrote: |
| Bill, I’d tell you, providing you know the secret handshake |
I'm thinking there may have to be a diamond horseshoe ring involved, too.
On a serious note, what is this card? When I received my new Emmons, in the early 1980s, it didn't come with any kind of a card. |
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Bill Lowe
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Connecticut
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 5:32 am
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Again, changed the subject and added an insult. What is the purpose and value in a factory card when the company went belly up. I don’t think you can argue the fact that there are many competent people working on or restoring Emmons guitars. There are many guitars just as good and some better than when they left the factory. You have no idea who did what to many guitars that look and play and sound beautiful. These guitars have been worked on by many people long before you even knew what a pedal steel was. And certainly well before you bought your first Emmons. Drop the factory card nonsense along with you insults.
Oh yeah, I’ve seen a lot of boo-boos from some very well known Emmons mechanics as well.( no names)
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JCH D10, 71 D10 P/p fat back, Telonics TCA 500C--12-,Fender JBL Twin, Josh Swift signature. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 6:08 am
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Interested!
Last edited by Johnie King on 6 Apr 2021 8:50 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Bill Lowe
From:
Connecticut
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 6:10 am
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 Yep
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JCH D10, 71 D10 P/p fat back, Telonics TCA 500C--12-,Fender JBL Twin, Josh Swift signature. |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 6:17 am
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What is a Factory Card?
fwiw, As I recall Mike Cass has been assembling New Emmons Push Pulls for quite a while. |
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 6:41 am
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| Pete Burak wrote: |
| What is a Factory Card? |
That's my question, too. Until this discussion got started, I had never heard of a "factory card". The name implies that it would be at the factory; but, I have no idea. That's why I asked the question.
Being called a drunk adds nothing to the discussion.
I wonder if other builders have "factory cards".
Perhaps someone with such knowledge will share their information with the rest of us.
Lee, from South Texas |
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Rick Barnhart
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 6:48 am
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| Doug Earnest wrote: |
| If I found a basket of NOS Bigsby parts and built a new guitar would it be a Bigsby?? |
...a Clinesmith 😉
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Colin Swinney
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Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 7:01 am
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 7:29 am
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Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 7:55 am
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Can we do away with the snarky jokes and insults, please? I am interested in this subject but it's hard to find facts amid the noise. I've deleted some of the replies.
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Dave Meis
From:
Olympic Peninsula, Washington, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 9:29 am
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It seems there would be a difference in a 'Warranty Card', which would be what the end user filed after purchase, and a 'Manufacturing Record' that stayed with the company.
I've received photo copies of the manufacturers cards from Gene Haugh for my older ShoBuds showing date, color, model number, serial number, builder, and final inspector.. but without a current licensee or past company officer with the actual records (like Gene), it seems unlikely that the information would be available. It seems that if someone had that, it would be known. It seems like "Updating" would/could only be done with repairs done at the factory or a licensed repair shop, and even that seems unlikely (to me).
Where's Bobbi Seymour? 😄 |
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Bill Lowe
From:
Connecticut
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 9:32 am
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That’s pretty cool to have, however it tells us nothing about the guitar, when it was built, pedals, knee levers , who worked on it, etc.. And in this case was never sent in with in the five days. And if it was sent in who is going to honor the waranty? Again it’s pretty cool to have original paperwork but useless if the public has no access to it, especially with old guitars. Is that a factory card or just a warranty registration ? We can’t even get an accurate list of when Emmons guitars were built.
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JCH D10, 71 D10 P/p fat back, Telonics TCA 500C--12-,Fender JBL Twin, Josh Swift signature.
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 9:56 am
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| Dave Meis wrote: |
| Where's Bobbi Seymour? 😄 |
Where's Mike Cass? He could answer all of the above questions if he's willing. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 11:11 am
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| Billy cooper assembled push pulls if my memory serves me right in his shop. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2021 1:49 pm
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Thank you, gentlemen.  |
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