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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2021 7:44 am    
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Dan Fries wrote:
Great ideas Bob! This is a nice one - but somehow my D lever when pressed 1/2 way lowers the second string to D, but the 9th string stays on D as well - it isn't until I press the D lever all the way that 9 goes down - but then both 2 and 9 get lowered to C# - is this set up atypically?

That's the way most pedal steels are set up. I don't use the half-stop - I have the simpler system of lowering strings 2 and 9 a half-step together. I put my 2nd string C# on a pedal. I found that I use the D note a lot more than the C#, and wanted a firmer stop.

Whether you want to change your copedent for this or not is a personal choice.

The C6th tuning with its lower range is better for all extended chords. The pedals and levers on it are designed for things like this.
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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2021 9:01 am    
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So Bob are your 2nd and 9th strings both tuned to D when open?

I guess I'd better look into C6 tuning. Any insight on a universal vs. double neck? Or would they be more or less similar?

Tom has been kind enough to let me test drive this E9 before buying it, so it may be I'll want to shift my focus on getting something with more harmonic possibilities.
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Post  Posted 22 Feb 2021 9:53 am    
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On my E9th, the D lever lowers string 2 D# to D and string 9 D to C#. I never use those two strings together. This is atypical - most people have a half-stop to match up the tones in the octaves.

The philosophy behind E9th pedals and levers is to move octaves together. The philosophy behind C6th is to not do that, but instead to move different notes in each octave. Also, the C6th goes an octave lower than E9th. To do that, it starts with a lower high note (E instead of G#) and then uses wider intervals in the middle octave. I've never played a U-12 so I won't comment on it.

My main guitar is tuned to D6th - a hybrid. You probably don't want to go down that path, as there is no instructional material for it.
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Slim Heilpern


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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2021 6:22 am    
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Dan Fries wrote:

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Any insight on a universal vs. double neck? Or would they be more or less similar?
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I think the short answer (based on my own experience so far) is that a standard universal (12 string) can give you most of what you get with a double neck but with some limitations. The limitations are related to the number of lowers and raises per string as well as the number of splits per string. In my case I'm happy with my U12 setup, but more experienced double-neck players that have the full compliment of pedals and levers probably wouldn't want to give up the few changes they'd have to lose to go to U12.

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Post  Posted 23 Feb 2021 8:04 am    
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Don’t forget Extended E9. With that nice full lower range E7 chord on the bottom, all you need to do is raise the two upper register E’s for your 7b9 chord.
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Post  Posted 26 Feb 2021 7:23 am    
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