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Aris Xanthos

 

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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2020 1:55 am    
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Can I ask your opinion on this used Guya S8?

https://www.tutti.ch/fr/vi/bale/musique/instruments-de-musique/guya-lap-steel-gitarre-8-seiten/38959332?redirected

I think the price is reasonable (when compared to something that needs to be shipped from the US to Europe), but I'm mostly wondering about the quality and sound -- whether it's going to be prohibitively worse than a Deluxe 8 for example.

Thanks in advance!

Aris
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Peter Funk


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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2020 2:13 am    
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In my opinion, it's not worse than a Fender, but different. I would describe the sound more "bell-like"
I used to own a Guyatone and this is what it sounded:
https://youtu.be/LZPWAYEshTo
Sold it for a Fender Stringmaster ...
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Keith Glendinning


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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2020 2:53 am    
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Doug. Beaumier occasionally posts using his Guyatone and it sounds great. But then anything he plays sounds great!
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Aris Xanthos

 

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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2020 12:16 pm    
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Thanks Peter, nice tune! It's very useful to be able to hear the sound like that, it seems less "mellow" than fender maybe, but not bad at all.

I agree Keith, it doesn't seem to depend much on the instrument at that point Wink
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David Matzenik


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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2020 1:49 pm    
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I'd offer 500, and see if they bite. You can always come up.
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Aris Xanthos

 

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Post  Posted 21 Aug 2020 9:18 pm    
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Thanks for the advice David!
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Tom Snook

 

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Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, USA
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2020 3:16 am    
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8 strings,go for it!
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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2020 5:55 am    
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Below are some videos I made playing Guyatones. I would describe the G'tone sound as thin, raw, and somewhat "nasal" as compared to other steel guitars. That was especially true of the S-8 I owned. I like the sound, although it's not for everyone.

Guyatone D-8 https://www.instagram.com/p/B5nu5iVnMIA/

Guyatone S-8 https://www.instagram.com/p/B4UvBKyh25R/

Guyatone D-8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8JivjKVBIg&list=RDzEoF8jTrwJk&index=15

For more G'tone info and chat check out this massive 11 page thread ---> https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=147757
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2020 6:20 am    
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I had a late 60s Fender 8-string lap steel once. Is that a "Deluxe 8"? It had a real problem with sustain above the 12th fret. The Fender name doesn't always guarantee good tone. I used that guitar on one gig. The bandleader and the lead guitarist both complained. I got rid of it quickly after that. It was a pretty guitar, but it just didn't sound right.

Like they say, you can't judge a book by its cover.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 22 Aug 2020 8:34 am    
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I think the pre-CBS Fenders (pre-1965) sound a little warmer and better than the later ones. I used to own a 1970s Deluxe 8 and it sounded dull to my ears. It didn't sound as full and rich as my 1956 Stringmaster and other 1950s ones I have played. On the other hand, the Deluxe 8 I currently have is a 1967 and it sounds pretty good, so who knows? Surprised
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Stephen Cowell


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Round Rock, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2020 1:56 pm    
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The Deluxe 8 (of SM vintage) lacks sustain due to the missing 4 screws behind the bridge... the guitar relies on the screws around the periphery of the neckplate for bridge coupling... just not enough.

You can 'hot rod' a Deluxe (or a Champ) by making it string-through... that's the way Junior Brown's Guit-Steels are done, Mike Stevens makes a block that he sets in the back, like a chunk of a Strat vibrato block. You can probably get the same effect using Tele ferrules.
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Aris Xanthos

 

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Post  Posted 22 Aug 2020 10:21 pm    
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Thank you all for sharing your experience and links, they encourage me to go ahead and go try this guitar when I have the opportunity Smile I find the sound of Doug’s S8 very nice indeed! Will let you know how it goes.
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Jack Hanson


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San Luis Valley, USA
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2020 5:43 am    
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Stephen Cowell wrote:
You can 'hot rod' a Deluxe (or a Champ) by making it string-through...

An interesting proposition that I may give a whirl on this thing:

It's a Studio Deluxe that I purchased stripped of all electronic components. I retrofitted it with excellent quality pots, tone cap, jack, and a Vintage Vibe Strat rail Alnico V magnet pickup with a flat, as opposed to the standard radiused, polepiece. Sounds pretty decent, but as b0b has noted, the sustain is somewhat lacking in the higher register.
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