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Roy McKinney

 

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Ontario, OR
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2020 5:52 pm    
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If you had the Franklin Pedal at the 0 position with the Emmons setup, what would you change it to?
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Brint Hannay

 

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Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 12 Apr 2020 8:14 pm    
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I don't have, have never had, the Franklin pedal, so I don't know whether it would be better to have it than my 0 pedal, but I do like my 0 pedal: 6th string G# raise to A#.

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Mike Holder


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Post  Posted 12 Apr 2020 8:28 pm    
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I would leave it in the zero pedal position
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Roy McKinney

 

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Ontario, OR
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2020 3:58 am    
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What I meant was if you replaced the Franklin change, what change would you put on it and stay at the 0 position.
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Gene Tani


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Pac NW
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2020 9:52 am    
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if you search "Split franklin pedal" there's threads about Tommy White's (a lot of those seem to be from people with 6+ knees)

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=334990

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=217669
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Dave Meis


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Olympic Peninsula, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2020 10:50 am    
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I use my 0 to lower 5 a half and 6 a whole. Gives me a 2 chord dom. 9.. can also be used for a 4 open to 5 dom. 9. Strings 6-3 give a 1,3,b7, and 9 (2 frets up). I like having them on adjacent strings. Easy to try if you have the Franklin..just adjust your 5th string pull..
Example: 5th fret open A, 0 pedal gives D9 on strings 6-3 (intervals 1,3,b7 and 9).
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MIchael Bean


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North Of Boston
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2020 11:53 am    
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Brint Hannay wrote:
I don't have, have never had, the Franklin pedal, so I don't know whether it would be better to have it than my 0 pedal, but I do like my 0 pedal: 6th string G# raise to A#.


That's exactly what I have for my 0 pedal. It can be used with or without the A pedal for 7th chords, like Tonight The Bottle Let Me Down. It's very handy for major 7 chords in Uni-12.
It also raises my string 10 G# to A#.
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2020 12:31 pm    
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My 0 pedal has always been a project pedal looking for a purpose and I finally think I've found something that works really well for me. On my U-12 it raises 12th string B > C# making that a usable tone on the (0+) A + F lever chord inversion (thank you Rick Schmidt!) but the newest ¡eureka! was that it now also raises 7th string F# > G# making the (0+) A + F inversion strummable. If big chordal strums is not something you tend to do, this won't have much value but now, also with a lever that lowers 7th string to E, I have big strums on all three triad inversions.
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Pat Chong

 

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New Mexico, USA
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2020 2:22 pm    
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At one time my 0 pedal lowered both G#s to G, giving an Em, (or with the A pedal) C#dim or A7 without the root note, at the nut.

However, in defence of the FP at 0, you can do 2 octaves of the AB pedal scale, with a 10 string guitar.

......Pat.
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John Goux

 

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California, USA
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2020 9:15 pm    
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1. B to Bb. In conjunction with the A pedals, to can play C#min, C#mmaj7, C#min7, c#min6.
2. Good place for G# to Gnat.
3. Just the G# to F# part of the FP.
John
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Roy McKinney

 

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Ontario, OR
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2020 5:19 am    
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Thanks for all the responses. I am still trying to figure out what to do with it. I have 3 pulls available on the 0 pedal. This has been an education process for me.
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Paul Pearson

 

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Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2020 6:11 am     Franklin pedal
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Try 6 and 9 lowered a half step gets some cool stuff
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Pete Burak

 

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Portland, OR USA
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2020 7:26 am    
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Roy it would be helpful for us to know what configuration your Steel is?
D10, S10, U12? Do you already lower your B's to Bb?
Since you have 3 pulls, you can raise strings 1 and 2 to be in unision with string 3 and 4, and also lower string 6 from G# to F#.
Another possibility, You could also lower your G#'s to G.
That string 6 whole tone raise gives you the Cth style Pedal-7 change when combined with the A pedal (with E's lowered).
You could also raise string 6 to B, in unision with string 5.
Some guys raise string 7 (and string 1) to G or G#.
There are alot of possibilities Smile
The other thing is, you can put a lever on that cross rod and use that change as a second Left Knee Left towards the front of your Steel (you can make one out of wood, or use a pair of vice grips or a small monkey wrench just to quickly test out that idea).
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Roy McKinney

 

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Ontario, OR
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2020 7:38 am    
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Thanks Pete.
I have a SD10 LKL RAISE E, LKR LOWER E, LKV B TO Bb.
RKL 1 string F# to G/G#; 2 string D# to E; 7 string F# to G#
RKR 2 string D# to D/C#; 8 string D to C#

O pedal lowers 5,6 and 10 one full tone.
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2020 10:10 am    
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Hey Roy, I do the Tom Brumley thing which is raising the 7th string F# to G#. What it gives you is basically the same sound as you get when you depress the B pedal and rock on the A pedal bringing the II to a III.... With this change you can play a nice version of "last Date" with only that pedal and the E to Eb lever..... With the Es lowered the F# is the V note of the B chord so this pedal would raise the V to a VI......... On my steel I also lower string 3 G# to G for some Mooney things I do.... Here's a copy of my setup to check out of you'd like..........JH in Va.

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