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Topic: Corona and It’s Impact on The PSG Gig Economy |
Jamie Lennon
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 2:55 pm |
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Georgettes dates all got pushed...which sucks as its only my income only for a while. Im on salary which I hope stays....musicians have took a huge hit
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Rich Upright
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2020 8:48 pm
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I agree with Donny. This country will be changed forever. And, not for the good.
Might be selling my D-10s for a couple hundred bucks apiece.
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Don R Brown
From:
Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2020 4:47 am
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| Rich Upright wrote: |
I agree with Donny. This country will be changed forever. And, not for the good.
Might be selling my D-10s for a couple hundred bucks apiece. |
Rich, I'll give you $500 for the pair! 
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Rich Upright
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2020 8:13 am
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| Don R Brown wrote: |
| Rich Upright wrote: |
I agree with Donny. This country will be changed forever. And, not for the good.
Might be selling my D-10s for a couple hundred bucks apiece. |
Rich, I'll give you $500 for the pair! |
Well; it hasn't come to THAT yet, but I'll letcha know if it ever does.
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A couple D-10s,some vintage guitars & amps, & lotsa junk in the gig bag. |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Kevin Fix
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2020 7:16 pm
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| Guitar player in our group is checking into the "gig" for compensation. |
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Bruce Meyer
From:
Thompson's Station, TN
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Posted 31 Mar 2020 8:17 pm
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All my gigs, which are backing up a Christian songwriter doing benefits, of course are canceled. I also did a duo at assisted living and nursing homes, which were the first ones canceled. It was not any income producer for me. I feel hugely sorry for all the full time musicians here in the Nashville area. I think it will take years for things to come back and many of the honky tonks will be out of business.
At my age, I cannot envision doing another gig anywhere until there is an effective vaccine. Probably in a few years. |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 1 Apr 2020 10:28 am Bad for those depending on gigs
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This is a sad thread, Bad for those depending on gigs for some or all of their income.
I'm kind of lucky having a business only effected a little by this and also being semi retired I have more than enough to live well on.
I sure do remember the years when I depended on the extra income from weekend gigs to help pay the bills and raise my 7 children.
As I understand it, those checks from the government will go to anyone who files income tax? However $1,100.00 or $1,200.00 a month won't go very far these days.
Sorry for those that will end up selling equipment at bottom prices just to eat and pay rent and utilities.
Lets just hope this all ends very soon and the country gets back to work. Wish there was a way to predict when that will be.
 
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Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 1 Apr 2020 10:37 am
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"As I understand it, those checks from the government will go to anyone who files income tax? However $1,100.00 or $1,200.00 a month won't go very far these days.
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I believe it is dependent on what you made in 2019. My understanding is that if you made over a certain amount last year ($75k? ) you are ineligible. so even though I retired and live on social security this year, because I worked last year and made over $75k I will receive nothing.
Happy to learn I'm mistaken |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 1 Apr 2020 11:35 am
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| For those who get laid off from their full-time day job due to the virus outbreak, a weekly check will be issued from the federal government in the amount of $600, and this benefit extends to July 31, 2020 (four months). However, you don't get this until you file for and collect your state's unemployment benefit! (The $600 from the federal government is in addition to whatever amount you're eligible for from your state unemployment benefit.) |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2020 11:40 am
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What Jim & Donny said.
Also, the CARES act is not just the stimulus check, but includes unemployment benefits for people who would not otherwise qualify - namely, gig workers like musicians and Uber drivers. I’m not going to post links because they might be different state to state. EDD’s are overwhelmed all over the country, but at least you can try to get an application started, and I believe those are downloadable. A friend of mine here in CA just applied and it took her 40 hours to finish with the application process, so be prepared for frustration. |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 1 Apr 2020 12:59 pm
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I posted the correct income limits for the stimulus payout on page 2 of this thread, with a link to an article that explains it as well as to the original text of the bill that was passed:
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(c) LIMITATION BASED ON ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME.—The amount of the credit allowed by subsection (a) (determined without regard to this subsection and subsection (e)) shall be reduced (but not below zero) by 5 percent of so much of the taxpayer’s adjusted gross income as exceeds—
(1) $150,000 in the case of a joint return,
(2) $112,500 in the case of a head of household, and
(3) $75,000 in the case of a taxpayer not described in paragraph (1) or (2) |
The amount is $1200 for a single taxpayer, $2400 for taxpayers filing jointly, plus $500 for each dependent child under a certain age (I believe under 18, but you can read the text, I didn't go that far). It goes to zero at an income of $99,00 for taxpayer filing singly, $136,500 for single head of household, and $198,000 for taxpayers filing jointly.
This is separate from the unemployment payout, which has indeed been extended to gig workers who would not normally get unemployment. But I'm pretty sure that is run by the states separately, and as stated, one needs to apply for that separately. |
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Billy McCombs
From:
Bakersfield California, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2020 4:09 pm We will survive as a Nation
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We will get thru this. Our Grand parents and parents lived thru two World Wars and the Great Depression. As a Nation we will be stronger than ever. Only buy American made even if it cost a little more. To hell with the over seas CRAP!! Remember that what doesn't kill you will makes us stronger as a nation. LOL
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 5 Apr 2020 12:17 pm
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It's all dried up for sure, i'm thinking this might be as bad as the dust bowl era of the 30's financially. There's an awful lot of people who rant against the government helping others at tax payers expense, but i'm thinking now they might rethink that viewpoint considering how the govt is doing all it can to help them too.
I think the whole world is doing the very very best they can to keep their nations afloat and help the human race survive this financial storm, i commend them all. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 5 Apr 2020 12:31 pm
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Well, Lowes and several large grocery chains in our area are asking for workers, Lowes is offering $18/hr . The grocery chains don't have enough people to fill the shelves , they are hiring.
Stew Leonard's, Norwalk Ct ( grocery's) is advertising $20 an hour for workers !
I wouldn't subscribe to total doom and gloom just yet.
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 5 Apr 2020 1:53 pm
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| Well said Tony, you do have a valid point, I think they’re doing the same here actually at the hardware and grocery shops. We must keep on no matter what, if truckers and grocery operators go home and hide it will be doomsday. |
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David Ball
From:
North Carolina High Country
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Posted 5 Apr 2020 2:45 pm
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There used to be occasional migrations of lots of the East Tennessee population and the Michigan/Ohio/northern manufacturing towns when the work was good up there and not so good down here. Then, when the economy shifted, you'd see the migration going the other way. I guess we've always moved to where the work is. It's not so much a geographical thing now days, but the same principle applies.
I was born in Michigan of Tennessee/Kentucky parents but lived most of my life in Tennessee and Kentucky...
At least somebody's hiring.
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Dustin Rigsby
From:
Parts Unknown, Ohio
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Posted 6 Apr 2020 4:50 am
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| Well said Tony, you do have a valid point, I think they’re doing the same here actually at the hardware and grocery shops. We must keep on no matter what, if truckers and grocery operators go home and hide it will be doomsday. |
I’m a trucker. Thank you for your appreciation. Many of us are nervous ,but doing our best to get down the road. For the first time in my career, most four wheelers are courteous instead of flying by me and flipping me the bird. We as a nation will get through this. It will fundamentally change us and the world around us. Every nation must learn to be self sufficient. We are now seeing the issues that arise when everyone in the world depends on the cheapest way to get their goods. We need a return to proper education so as to teach skilled trades instead of producing would be philosophers and unskilled citizens. We can’t all be sports stars and singing sensations... there is no shame in a good days work in a factory or on a jobsite.
I wish all of you good health and food security! I’ll do my best to truck it to you. WASH YOU HANDS LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT, BECAUSE MY LIFE DEPENDS ON IT TOO !
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Don McClellan
From:
California/Thailand
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Posted 7 Apr 2020 4:18 am
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A hungry man is a dangerous man and if his kids are hungry he's a very dangerous man. How many more months, weeks or even days can people all over the world go without an income. I think most Americans would be surprised to know how many people world wide live hand to mouth and simply can't endure this lock-down much longer. There will undoubtedly be mass protests, rioting and looting sooner than later. I think we'll see special police forces given the green light to shoot and gas protesters, rioters and looters and these people won't be just a bunch of no-goods, it'll be people just like you and I with their backs against the wall. Desperate times call for desperate measures. It's going to get ugly fast. Desperation will be here shortly. We ain't seen nothin' yet!
It seems obvious to me that this can't be about a virus. I believe the Coronavirus is just a smoke screen to cover up a much more sinister agenda.
I wish I could be little more optimistic but I can't. I'd be kidding myself but I sure hope I'm wrong. Good luck everyone, Don |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 7 Apr 2020 5:09 am
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What is obvious to you isn't obvious to me. The condition of overcrowding has created other challenges to the future.
Desperation need not be the only choice. Choosing to live together in cooperation can bring changes to the status quo.
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Dustin Rigsby
From:
Parts Unknown, Ohio
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Posted 7 Apr 2020 6:05 am
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A hungry man is a dangerous man and if his kids are hungry he's a very dangerous man. How many more months, weeks or even days can people all over the world go without an income. I think most Americans would be surprised to know how many people world wide live hand to mouth and simply can't endure this lock-down much longer. There will undoubtedly be mass protests, rioting and looting sooner than later. I think we'll see special police forces given the green light to shoot and gas protesters, rioters and looters and these people won't be just a bunch of no-goods, it'll be people just like you and I with their backs against the wall. Desperate times call for desperate measures. It's going to get ugly fast. Desperation will be here shortly. We ain't seen nothin' yet!
It seems obvious to me that this can't be about a virus. I believe the Coronavirus is just a smoke screen to cover up a much more sinister agenda.
I wish I could be little more optimistic but I can't. I'd be kidding myself but I sure hope I'm wrong. Good luck everyone, Don |
I’m not discounting you at all, but the virus is very contagious and is virtually a new pathogen to humans to which there is no immunity. I don’t doubt that other forces are at work as well. I’m one of those folks who understands that most of the rest of the world does live hand to mouth. That’s not lost on me at all. It may be upon me to employ skills I learned as a youth to keep my family alive and afloat. Had we not taken mitigation measures, the death toll would have been in the millions instead of the hundred thousands. It was a dastardly thing to do for the Communist Chinese Government to not admit they had a problem sooner than when they did. It amounts to biological warfare. That’s for the elected officials to consider. I just want to survive.
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 7 Apr 2020 7:16 am
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| ... It seems obvious to me that this can't be about a virus. I believe the Coronavirus is just a smoke screen to cover up a much more sinister agenda. ... |
Full brakes on! This is a thread about the impact of the current pandemic on the PSG (and more general musician) gig economy. That topic is relevant to many steel guitar players on this forum, which I believe is why it has been allowed to continue.
Conspiracy theories are not relevant, act as flame bait, inevitably lead us totally off-topic, and every time someone posts one, an otherwise useful and relevant discussion winds up getting shut down. We should not go here, this is not the place for that.
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| I’m a trucker. Thank you for your appreciation. Many of us are nervous ,but doing our best to get down the road. |
I'm not sure everybody gets it - the culture is full of people who feel entitled - but I sure do. Do your best to stay safe, brother. |
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