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Joe Naylor


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Avondale, Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2020 9:03 am    
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I have put them on the changer end because that seemed natural to me. Had not thought that much about it.

I am going to put some on mine (finally) this week and that will be the way mine will be.

changer end down with wheels (that is how I have always transported it on a 2 wheeler since I have had a pedal steel

I will listen to ideas and good reasons

Joe
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Lee Baucum


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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2020 9:10 am    
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Jon Light wrote:
Worth noting -- standing, Stu's case felt a bit tippy with the wheels. A careless hip check would be a drag. Don't know if the weight of a steel in it would make it ok -- the steel is not here so I couldn't say.
So I put bumper/feet on it. Much better.





Ya know, black bumper/feet sound a lot better...

Razz
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Tom Campbell

 

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Houston, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2020 10:18 am    
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Is there a link to the wheel set Randy Beavers uses...or did I miss it?
I like the idea of the longer support arm.
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2020 10:19 am    
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White bumpers before Memorial Day ... I knew I was bucking some pretty powerful trends there. I'm a rebel.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2020 10:31 am    
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can't speak for Randy, but there are some sources in this old post.
Jerry Overstreet wrote:
https://www.pennelcomonline.com/us/Flight-Case-Castors/c-323.aspx

A little hard to navigate, but there are a few models of outrigger [W8675] and also flush mount [A5250] wheels for cases.

They also offer handles on there somewhere too. Just look for handles in the drop down.

Also poke around here L-2498 appears to be a suitable model for a steel case. https://hardwareelf.com/luggage-wheels
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Tom Campbell

 

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Houston, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2020 3:48 pm    
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Thanks Jerry...great sources for hardware!
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2020 4:37 pm    
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You're welcome Tom. I buy most of my case and cabinet hardware from www.parts-express.com as they have the best prices and service but they don't carry these type of wheels. They do have some recessed ones that are nice but can't use those on a steel guitar case.
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Randy Beavers


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Lebanon,TN 37090
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2020 7:34 pm    
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I’ve had mine for awhile now and I know this is where I got them. I think this is the ones I got. https://hardwareelf.com/L-3719/Ball+Bearing+Wheel+Assembly+ https://hardwareelf.com/product-images/L-3719.jpg?maxwidth=450&maxheight=450

I have no idea why they show a hinge in that first photo. The second one shows the wheel though.
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Scott McCumber

 

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New Braunfels, TX
Post  Posted 14 Mar 2020 6:44 am     Penn Elcom Parts
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If you order from Penn Elcom don’t do the online store it is much more expensive. Call directly and you get a much better price.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 14 Mar 2020 7:05 am    
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Thanks for the tip Scott. Good to know.
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Karl Paulsen

 

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Chicago
Post  Posted 14 Mar 2020 12:17 pm    
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For those of you who add casters to your cases, are you cases padded inside?

I have a Zum Encore and the provided road case is plenty protective for hauling around, but it isn't particularly padded, being basically a wood case with the same thin carpet on the inside and out.

I'm concerned with the bumps and bounces associated with rolling this down the sidewalk, etc.
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Joe Naylor


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Avondale, Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 14 Mar 2020 12:45 pm     cases
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Most are not padded. Mine is not and many times if there is room on the end I have seen people simply put the hand towel in the bottom and then use it to wipe their hands.

Has not been a problem for me
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Alex Stewart


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California, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2020 8:17 am    
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I received two of those Penn Elcom corner caters yesterday. https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/Penn-Elcom-75mm295-Universally-Sided-Out-Rigger-Heavy-Duty-Corner-Castor-W8375/m-9041.aspx

From the website pictures you can't tell that they will not sit flush with your case unless you rout or cut the case corners to allow room for the caster axle.

Just an FYI. These casters are really overkill as they are rated 330lb/caster. They do look nice, however. Not sure if I will return them or hack at my case a bit. You would need to remove about an inch square and 3/8 deep of the corners. You can also see it won't fit flush on the circular arch as there is a flange (for lack of a better word) there


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Roy Carroll


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North of a Round Rock
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2020 8:25 am    
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Hi Gents,
I have been installing these like in the picture by removing the chrome corner piece and wood chisel a small place for the indention to fit. If you ever take them off, the corner piece will cover up the work.
They are absolutely THE best hands down. Anything with wheels is the best!
Good Luck,
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Joe Naylor


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Avondale, Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2020 9:34 am     agree
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I have installed these as well. Roy is correct. Anytime you make a change there is usually something else you have not seen.

Since I have many changes or additions to steelseats I can tell you there is some unforeseen opportunity.

These are the best wheels but the smaller ones take less routing. By the way I use Reliable Hardware, No. Hollywood, CA Gene has a great deal is experience with other companies and will explain those type of things before you order. Others do not do that and many on their order desk have no idea what it takes.

This is why I stick with RELIABLE HARDWARE. They have a great web site and if you do not have they can get it and it normally is the same price or less. Also if you have not done modifications call someone and save yourself a lot of grief. I have received at least 2 sets of these that would not work on a specific case and had to trade out to the smaller wheels.

Joe
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Alex Stewart


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California, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2020 10:30 am    
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Roy Carroll wrote:
Hi Gents,
I have been installing these like in the picture by removing the chrome corner piece and wood chisel a small place for the indention to fit. If you ever take them off, the corner piece will cover up the work.
They are absolutely THE best hands down. Anything with wheels is the best!
Good Luck,


Thanks Roy and Gene, I wasn't sure quite how to approach it. Smile
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Gaylen James


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2020 10:42 am     Best wheels
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OK, you guys are all close but I found the best ones.
These babies stay inside the plane of the case and are metal. Win and Win
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Charlie Thompson

 

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South Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 19 Mar 2020 12:30 pm    
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Alex I did the same as Roy I didn't expect the inside to be an issue.. I used a piece of 1/2" or 3/8" plywood to fill the gap. Works fine.
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Al Evans


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Austin, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 20 Mar 2020 5:13 am    
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Alex Stewart wrote:
I received two of those Penn Elcom corner caters yesterday. https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/Penn-Elcom-75mm295-Universally-Sided-Out-Rigger-Heavy-Duty-Corner-Castor-W8375/m-9041.aspx

From the website pictures you can't tell that they will not sit flush with your case unless you rout or cut the case corners to allow room for the caster axle.


The ones I showed earlier DO fit flush with the case. Like I said, they're more expensive.

https://www.rosebrand.com/product3618/3-Exterior-Mount-Corner-Caster.aspx?cid=211&idx=1&tid=1&info=Casters

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Gene Tani

 

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The Pacific NW,
Post  Posted 20 Mar 2020 6:26 pm    
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industrial velcro, that was an aha moment.

This thread features lots of mods, dollies/handtrucks and other wheeled things, what do you call them .. conveyances?

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=352644
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Jerry Overstreet


From:
Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 20 Mar 2020 6:46 pm    
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Al Evans wrote:
Alex Stewart wrote:
I received two of those Penn Elcom corner caters yesterday. https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/Penn-Elcom-75mm295-Universally-Sided-Out-Rigger-Heavy-Duty-Corner-Castor-W8375/m-9041.aspx

From the website pictures you can't tell that they will not sit flush with your case unless you rout or cut the case corners to allow room for the caster axle.


The ones I showed earlier DO fit flush with the case. Like I said, they're more expensive.

https://www.rosebrand.com/product3618/3-Exterior-Mount-Corner-Caster.aspx?cid=211&idx=1&tid=1&info=Casters

--Al Evans


Sorry about your issue Alex. That's my bad for quoting a source for a product I have no experience with.

That's why posts like Al Evans' are important...it's from an actual user. Good luck with it though.
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Alex Stewart


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California, USA
Post  Posted 21 Mar 2020 1:27 pm    
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Jerry Overstreet wrote:


Sorry about your issue Alex. That's my bad for quoting a source for a product I have no experience with.

That's why posts like Al Evans' are important...it's from an actual user. Good luck with it though.


No problem, Jerry. They are very nice wheels and are going to work out just fine!
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Dave Hepworth

 

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West Yorkshire, UK
Post  Posted 29 Mar 2020 6:26 am    
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Just done my Mullen case as per.
I had to cut some of the covering off the case on bottom side to expose the wood and glue this side of castor with Gorilla glue as the wood here is only 1/4 inch thick.I put some small screws in to finish it off.The uprightside was screwed with 5/8 wood screws as the wood is thick here.Note the bumpers and handle on opposite side.Tested and is sound and all ok.SO much easier.

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