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Jeff Garden


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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2019 4:05 pm    
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Solder

sodder

soldier
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 5 Dec 2019 4:31 pm    
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Sodder. I don't think I have ever heard anyone say soLder. The L is usualy silent.

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sol·der

/ˈsädər/

noun
a low-melting alloy, especially one based on lead and tin or (for higher temperatures) on brass or silver, used for joining less fusible metals.
"remove the fitting using a blowtorch to melt the solder"
verb
join with solder.
"the wires to this clip are soldered to the circuit board"
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 5 Dec 2019 4:49 pm    
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Pete Bailey wrote:
America gets it right

Another annoying thing about being British is that sometime in the 19th c. our quarts and gallons got messed up whereas yours are still correct.
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Jack Hanson


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San Luis Valley, USA
Post  Posted 5 Dec 2019 8:49 pm    
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In Bruce Payne's electronics class at Bloomington Lincoln High School in the mid-sixties, it was SODDER. And old Bruce knew his stuff.
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 12:28 am    
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It amazes me how pronunciation varies even in a tiny country like England. There are tribes living barely 20 miles from me that I can barely understand. Now the art of soldering is not something I regularly discuss with strangers (or even with close friends, come to that) but I cannot guarantee that every UK passport-holder pronounces the L.
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Steve Sycamore

 

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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 1:18 am    
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Do all Brits use this strange grammar convention too? (Interpreting a country or company or group name as a plural entity)

For example:

"IBM sell our hard drives."
"The Charlie Daniels band play every second weekend."

But even then, no one would say "Britain go war when the occasion is necessary", would they?


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Peter Harris

 

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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 1:35 am    
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Put a Bonnet on your Hood and take that Boot out of your Trunk before I Wrench that Spanner out of your hand..... Whoa! Laughing
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Per Berner


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Skövde, Sweden
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 4:17 am    
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Solder, sodder – everyone should know it's called lödtenn Very Happy

...and while on the subject of pronounciation, didn't Dolly do a tongue-in-cheek song called "I will oilwells love you"?
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Jeff Garden


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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 4:21 am    
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I can see why English is such a difficult language to learn..
"solder" is pronounced "sodder", so why isn't folder pronounced "fodder", or "older" pronounced "odder"?
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 5:28 am    
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Jeff Garden wrote:
I can see why English is such a difficult language to learn..
"solder" is pronounced "sodder", so why isn't folder pronounced "fodder", or "older" pronounced "odder"?

We're all still learning it, me included.
As I mentioned before, the French are responsible for losing the L in "solder" which the Romans kindly supplied. The other words you mention have come to us from German via Old English with their L's intact, although the Dutch have dropped them. Same with "shoulder" (Schulter/schouder).

Steve Sycamore wrote:
Do all Brits use this strange grammar convention too? (Interpreting a country or company or group name as a plural entity)

Not in serious writing, but generally it's regarded as pedantic not to use the plural when you're clearly referring to a bunch of people. Careful use of the singular risks distracting attention from what you were actually trying to say.

If it's a band or a sports team clearly composed of individuals the plural feels right. If it's an institution it depends on how faceless it appears. We would never say "the Bank of England are going to put up interest rates". If IBM is getting a plural verb it's PR people must be good Smile
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Danny Letz

 

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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 5:59 am    
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Dick Wood, I wuz jest by that club wall a go cuz I thought shirley you wuz a playin.
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Dick Wood


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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 10:41 am    
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Danny, jest keep on checkin onus cuz we'll prolly be thur next Fridee or Saddee.
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Ken Byng


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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 11:02 am    
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Ian Rae wrote:
Pete Bailey wrote:
America gets it right

Another annoying thing about being British is that sometime in the 19th c. our quarts and gallons got messed up whereas yours are still correct.


You could always cross over to France if you get annoyed by being British. I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms - not!
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Bill C. Buntin

 

Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 12:03 pm    
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In the lone star state, the old ham radio dudes that taught me called it saw-der
I suppose that’s how I pronounce it too. Our Texas drawl often warps pronunciation far from a word’s spelling. Kind of like the word “wash”. We call it war-ush.
“Over there” becomes “oh- var “
Dog is pronounced “daw-ugh”
Steel guitar is pronounced “stee-uhl git-taw-er”
Nashville 400 is Nash-vee-uhl foe-er Hunderd

Session 400 is seshun foe-er hunderd
Roman Catholic is romin cath-a-lick
Baptist’s is Babb-dists
Church of Christ is churcha -Christ

Store is of course “stow-er”

I could go on and on
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b0b


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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 2:05 pm     I seem to have wandered into the wrong classroom
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Is this the Electronics room?
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Bill C. Buntin

 

Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 3:00 pm    
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Sorry bob. Kind of got off topic. We were talking about solder I 🤔 think??
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Brooks Montgomery


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Idaho, USA
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 3:07 pm     Re: I seem to have wandered into the wrong classroom
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b0b wrote:
Is this the Electronics room?


b0b, it’s ectronics.
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2019 3:24 pm    
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Laughing Laughing Laughing
Bill C. Buntin wrote:
Sorry bob. Kind of got off topic. We were talking about solder I 🤔 think??

I suppose we were, but this is way more interesting Smile
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