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Topic: Solder or sodder? |
Ken Byng
From: Southampton, England
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 7:33 am
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Virtually all of the soldering exercises that I've watched on YouTube by an American commentator, the gents call solder SODDER. In the UK we pronounce the L and call it soLder. In reality it doesn't make a scrap of difference, but I'm curious to know why there is an abandonment of the L across the pond and when it happened. _________________ Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E,
Last edited by Ken Byng on 4 Dec 2019 11:56 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Tony Edwards
From: Six Mile, South Carolina
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 7:57 am solder
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Ken,
We country red necks from South Carolina call it soider. (Pronounced SOY-DER) I don't know where that came from either! _________________ CLR Custom SD10 Pedal Steel; Telonics 500-B Combo w/ TT 15"; Hilton Low Profile VP; Telonics X-10 Pup; Frenchy's Steel Mill Strings; George L's Cables; BJS Tone Bar; Hoffmeyer Picks. This combination produces a Heavenly tone! Psalm 33:2 "Praise the Lord with...an instrument of ten strings."
"Listen and silent are spelled with the same letters!" |
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Tommy Mc
From: Middlesex VT
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 8:02 am Re: Solder or sodder
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Ken Byng wrote: |
I'm curious to know why there is an abandonment of the L across the pond and when it happened. |
It dates back to April 19, 1775 Lexington and Concord when the Americans beat the "L" out of the British |
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Bill A. Moore
From: Silver City, New Mexico, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 8:03 am
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I believe it comes with the other refinements to the language we have adopted to differentiate ourselves from the old country! |
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Brooks Montgomery
From: Idaho, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 8:12 am
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Hey Ken, how do you pronounce aluminum? _________________ A banjo, like a pet monkey, seems like a good idea at first. |
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Bill Sinclair
From: Waynesboro, PA, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 9:18 am
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We ain't pronouncin' it wrong. It's just spelt weird. |
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Michael Butler
From: California, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 10:57 am
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that's funny! this same subject is on two other guitar fora at the moment. pronunciation, tho, doesn't matter as much as the usage of the product. tomato, potato, etc.
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Tommy Mc
From: Middlesex VT
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 10:57 am
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Brooks Montgomery wrote: |
Hey Ken, how do you pronounce aluminum? |
Or "lieutenant". |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 11:05 am
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Black label solder sounds best.
Last edited by Jerry Overstreet on 4 Dec 2019 12:17 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Jim Newberry
From: Seattle, Upper Left America
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 11:05 am
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Sodder and Sammin.
I had a pal from Suffolk (John Stannard, RIP) who insisted on "Al-you-min-you-um" _________________ "The Masher of Touch and Tone"
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Ken Byng
From: Southampton, England
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 11:26 am
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Tommy Mc wrote: |
Brooks Montgomery wrote: |
Hey Ken, how do you pronounce aluminum? |
Or "lieutenant". |
Al-ew-min-eeum and lef-tenant. Thank you to those who have submitted their views. _________________ Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E, |
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Ken Pippus
From: Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 12:15 pm
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It should be noted that the Brits actually spell it Aluminium, consistent with similar elements on the periodic table, rather than the North American Aluminum. |
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George McLellan
From: Duluth, MN USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 12:50 pm My ?
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Why do some ( at least in this area) say “acrosst†the pond referring to either Europe or Great Britain, when it’s not even a word 🤪
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 4 Dec 2019 1:58 pm
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Ken - down in Texas they have this stuff called "Bob Wuur" which they put on fences to keep their cattle in... I have no idea who Bob Wuur is either :-} !!!! _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
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Jonathan Shacklock
From: London, UK
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Danny Letz
From: Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 5:59 am
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Dang Paddy, get it right, that’s Bob War. Some of our merchants keep their goods in warhouses too. Right now now I’m out in the awl patch pumping awl wells. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 7:19 am
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The "L" is silent, the same as it is in the words "could", "half", "salmon" and "would". Pronouncing it "sold er" appears a purely UK affectation. No dictionary I've seen gives that as a primary pronunciation (even the Cambridge English Dictionary). Though most of them do state "sold er" as an alternate (UK only) pronunciation. |
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Brooks Montgomery
From: Idaho, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 9:48 am
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Donny Hinson wrote: |
The "L" is silent, the same as it is in the words "could", "half", "salmon" and "would". Pronouncing it "sold er" appears a purely UK affectation. No dictionary I've seen gives that as a primary pronunciation (even the Cambridge English Dictionary). Though most of them do state "sold er" as an alternate (UK only) pronunciation. |
Bob's your uncle! _________________ A banjo, like a pet monkey, seems like a good idea at first. |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 10:12 am
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"Solder" comes to us from the Latin "solidare" (to make solid) via French, which is rather hit-and-miss when it comes to L's. English is a Frankenstein language assembled from bits of all-sorts, which is why we pronounce the L in "shoulder" but not in "should". _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
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Pete Bailey
From: Seattle, WA
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 11:39 am
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Ken Pippus wrote: |
It should be noted that the Brits actually spell it Aluminium, consistent with similar elements on the periodic table, rather than the North American Aluminum. |
MolybÂdenum, tantaÂlum & platÂinum would beg to differ.
The spelling of Aluminum was chosen by its discoverer Sir Humphry Davy, using the -um suffix common to other scientific nomenclature of the time (c. 1808).
Some anonymous nitpickers in the British scientific community decided on their own to "correct" the spelling with the -ium suffix to satisfy their own urges for conformity, against the wishes of Sir Humphry.
The proper spelling is "aluminum".
As always, America gets it right while everyone else is just plain wrong. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Dick Wood
From: Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 11:58 am
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The L in already is silent here in Texas i.e I'm ar-dee at the club and they say we're not booked here tunite. _________________ Cops aren't paid much so I steel at night. |
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Peter Harris
From: South Australia, Australia
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 12:26 pm Re: Listen
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....soLder....
...but then, it was only a few years ago we stopped singing "God Save The Queen" as our national anthem....
Interesting how "SOLDIER" seems be unilateral though... _________________ If my wife is reading this, I don't have much stuff....really! |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 3:26 pm Re: Listen
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Me neither! But the British do a lot of things we don't like, and that's probably why we founded this country! |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 5 Dec 2019 3:52 pm
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Here in New Zealand we call it Solder as well !!
But of course that could change once the Queen passes on hehe ...... _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
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