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Josh Davis


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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 1:03 pm    
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I was just gifted a BMI 12 string, single neck steel for my bday. It has 4 pedals and what seems like six knee levers. I can post photos of it if needed. Was wanting some general advice on getting it up and playing again. All the linkages move with no binding, but some don't seem like they move or do anything, like the LKV or RKR. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Daniel McKee


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Corinth Mississippi
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 2:26 pm    
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Welcome to the world of steel guitar. This is a great place to get information. Some pictures might help us determine whats going on with your guitar. BMI is still open and in business so you might reach out to them for information on your guitar if needed.
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Gene Tani


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The Pacific NW,
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 2:43 pm    
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Fantastic birthday present! Sounds like an extended E9.

Maybe if you say what part of Arkansas you're in, there'll be a teacher or somebody experienced nearby to test play it and check how it fits you, choose bar/fingerpicks etc etc.
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Josh Davis


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Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 2:46 pm     photos
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Lee Dassow


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Jefferson, Georgia USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 3:21 pm    
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BMI are great steel guitars. I've got a couple, and the builder, Don Fritche is right in Arkansas If you need some parts. Real nice guy I might add. I'd guess that steel is probably a late 70's. Tenn.Lee
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Fred Treece


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California, USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 8:08 pm    
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I agree with Gene, it’s probably set up as Extended E9

I see 5 knee levers, including the vertical. 4 pedals / 5 levers is very common for Ext.E9. A pedal or lever should rock at least one of the changer fingers; most of them should do two. Some levers engage to the right, others to the left, and of course the vertical engages up. Just use your good eye when watching the changer fingers - they don’t move much.

Sorry if all that seems painfully obvious, but you said you’re new to pedal steel. If after careful observation you are still convinced some things are not working, then maybe a visit to another player or local shop is in order.
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Gene Tani


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The Pacific NW,
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 9:59 pm    
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Are there any loose parts, e.g. pull rods, bellcranks in the case? Can you take pix of the undercab: Changer and where the levers that don't seem to pull are mounted and (should be) connected to cross shafts. Also pic of changer from above, somebody recently had a pic where the strings were pushed off to the side of each finger.

Read this stickied post also https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=326460

it's possible for pull rods and cross shafts to be binding, needs new springs etc
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=326448

and use Search button above to find about little things particular to your steel, every steel has something different going on.
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Josh Davis


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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 10:14 pm     Knee Levers
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So is it normal for there to be two levers on LKL? There are two, one toward the front and one toward the back.
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Gene Tani


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The Pacific NW,
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 10:26 pm    
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Yup, some players have a cluster of 5 left levers.

Here's 4 lefts: https://b0b.com/tunings/ebovine.html

Here's a D10 copedent, 4 lefts https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=350295
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Josh Davis


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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 2 Dec 2019 10:44 pm     teardown
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Good to know. Now I have to get up the courage to do a good tear down and clean on it.
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Stu Schulman


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Ulster Park New Yawk
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2019 12:14 am    
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Josh,Happy Birthday,That's a great guitar.
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Bill Rowlett


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Russellville, AR, USA
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2019 7:21 am    
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Josh,

I'm in Russellville and available to you most any day if you are close. I used to own and work on a BMI (Beck Musical Instruments) SD-10.

That is a nice pro 12 string BMI model that you have.

Zane Beck (the BMI designer) used a special tuning/copedent on his personal 12 string guitars. I'm sure that I could find it for you in my library. Your guitar may have the Beck copedent installed. However, it would probably be better to set it up as an extended E-9 for you to learn on.

You might look up Zane King on the forum here, or on YouTube. He was a student of Zane Beck and grew up with the Beck 12 string tuning. He has done alright playing it:)

Bill
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Josh Davis


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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2019 7:44 am     Zane King
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Funny you mention Zane King. He gave my mother piano lessons many moons ago. I live about 2 hours from Russellville in White County.
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Josh Davis


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Arkansas, USA
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2019 8:23 pm     ingo
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I found the serial number, it's 0200


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