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Topic: Well have you researched that negative harmony yet? |
Bo Legg
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Posted 21 Sep 2019 12:16 am |
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Let's hear about it! Seems this could be a very thought provoking music subject. |
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Jeff Garden
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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
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Fred
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Amesbury, MA
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Fred
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Amesbury, MA
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Posted 21 Sep 2019 10:11 am
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| Oops! Didn’t look at the previous link before posting the same thing. |
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Fred
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Dave Little
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Atlanta
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Posted 21 Sep 2019 7:37 pm
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Albert Stimson
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Iowa, USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2019 8:37 am
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My take is it's a system for finding a weird substitution that has a similar amount of tension to the original, so it keeps a similar feeling to the flow of the chords.
That being said, there are plenty of other ways to pick out weird alternate chords for a progression without the system. I think it's a neat curiosity, and one more way to get ideas for messing with stuff, but nothing super unique about that particular way of changing chords. |
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Fred Treece
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Posted 15 Oct 2019 9:17 am
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| The tritone substitution method is similar, and easier to understand for me. Fm for G7 is not exactly the same as Db7 for G7, but you could almost think of the Fm as Dbmaj7, which is close enough for the hand grenades I throw out there. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 15 Oct 2019 10:37 am
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| The secret is know when to use it! Works great if you turn the volume way up and play it over the top of a Jason Aldean song! |
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Fred Treece
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Posted 15 Oct 2019 2:38 pm
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I was doing pretty well there with Jacob, but got lost somewhere between the college kid and the pro pianist. Then when Herbie Hancock played that VIIdom7 to Iadd69 change, I thought hey that’s “Dream A Little Dream Of Meâ€! The band I’m in plays that! Woohoo, negative harmony rules!
This might be the time and place and topic to get a short discussion of Paul Franklin’s “All Aboard†going - maybe with some insight on its composition by the master himself?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xBHDw5d9Vj0
I love the effortlessness of all the players breezing through this tune. |
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Ian Rae
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Posted 15 Oct 2019 3:37 pm
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I have to admit I've been too busy with the positive kind of harmony, which I'm still trying to master. But best wishes to those who have nailed it and moved on.
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Donny Hinson
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Posted 15 Oct 2019 4:31 pm Very few will like this...
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Decades back, when I was trying to understand and appreciate jazz, I bought an album called "Crystal Silence" by Gary Burton and Chick Corea. Below is the title song from the album, and it always fascinated and bewildered me because it contained so much and went so many different directions. Jazz aficionados may appreciate it, but it ain't for the faint of heart...or for anyone that likes "three-chord-easy-melody" stuff. Some of the songs on the album go even further into the nether regions of harmony and melody! 
(Lots of negative harmony stuff in this one, I believe.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnlAPR_ixo4 |
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Fred Treece
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Posted 15 Oct 2019 10:18 pm Re: Very few will like this...
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Good one, Donny. My older brother had a record of this one, I think. I didn’t understand it and I don’t think he did either, but it sure sounded cool.
I find it challenging (and weirdly fun) just to figure out where “home†is on stuff like this. I can kinda tell with Crystal Silence now, because the improvised melodies always seem to lead into a clusterf*** of notes that faintly resemble an altered/re-harmonized V7 of some sort, and then resolve to a familiar sounding minor chord. |
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