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Sonny Jenkins


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New Braunfels, Tx. 78130
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2019 10:00 am    
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My most feared nightmare,,,,my choice between a Shafer Sierra,,,and an Anapeg,,,one or the other,,,not both! I'd be like the Mississippi bull frog that didn't know which a way to jump,,LOL
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Sonny Jenkins


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New Braunfels, Tx. 78130
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2019 10:11 am    
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The tuning wrench is exactly like the ones I make for my conversion heads,,so that the player can use one wrench for both ends,,,of course you do have to point it in the right direction,,which may be too much for those who are sooooo opposed to keyless,,(you know,,"because you have to have a wrench to tune it?")
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Mike Vallandigham


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Martinez, CA
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2019 10:52 am    
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Sonny, the raise is a rotation of the finger, like normal. The lower is a forward slide of the top of the finger, so in-line lower, rotating raise.
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Sonny Jenkins


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New Braunfels, Tx. 78130
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2019 12:47 pm    
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Very interesting!!! Is that a similar thing to the Anapeg? Is the the changer finger a scissor type,,,or a solid piece?
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Mike Vallandigham


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Martinez, CA
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2019 1:58 pm    
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I'd say more scissor type. It's really hard to explain. There is a secondary pivot pin that pins the raise part of the finger to the lower part.when you pull the lower, it moves that pivot pin forward allowing the string to pull the raise portion of the finger forward under string pressure.

So the head of the finger does move forward, but really it's pivoting on a pin that is below the main axle, upon which the raise finger rotated as normal.
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Len Amaral


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Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2019 2:05 pm    
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The Sierra is a special guitar and has a voice all its own. The Williams is also a very nice guitar and it’s the guitar I play out with on the rare occasions I play a gig.


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Ross Shafer


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Petaluma, California
Post  Posted 11 Sep 2019 9:08 am    
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Sonny Jenkins wrote:
Very interesting!!! Is that a similar thing to the Anapeg? Is the the changer finger a scissor type,,,or a solid piece?


Lamar has the only true linear string movement changer that I know of and it is linear raising and lowering.

The Anapeg changer uses the same dual pivot/virtual pivot concept that is found on Excel and new Sierra steels. The earliest use of this concept that I know of is found on some Rickenbacker pedal steels, the next in line is the brilliant, but ultimately ill fated Fender PS210 steels designed by Gene fields.

All are executed differently, but use the same concept. And none have truly linear string movement in either direction. The raises use a single pivot with a much larger pulling radius than that found on changers of any other type (except Lamar's). The lowers utilize both pivots to, in essence create a third and virtual pivot which again has a much larger pull radius (very nearly straight/linear but not quite). All this adds up to a less stressful life for the strings.

The virtual pivot idea is used in many industries utilizing motion and motion control. It came into my world when it began being used in bicycle suspension designs to counteract the pedaling forces that in many cases hampered the function of the suspension.
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Mike Vallandigham


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Martinez, CA
Post  Posted 11 Sep 2019 9:53 am    
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Thanks Ross, for that explanation. Much better than I could do.

I hope to try out one of your new Sierras someday, they look fantastic, and everyone says so many good things.
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Ross Shafer


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Petaluma, California
Post  Posted 11 Sep 2019 9:54 am    
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Come and visit...Petaluma's not too far from Martinez.
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Gabriel Edell


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Hamilton, Ontario
Post  Posted 11 Sep 2019 1:13 pm    
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Looks like it's the same as Georg's. It's starting to show some wear - has some chips in the finish.
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Jon Jaffe


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Austin, Texas
Post  Posted 11 Sep 2019 1:53 pm    
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Laquer Kline was built in '84 and acquired '06, used in practice space.



Mica Kline built and acquired '83. Main gigging steel

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Sonny Jenkins


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New Braunfels, Tx. 78130
Post  Posted 11 Sep 2019 2:21 pm    
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My 1983 Kline,,,owned and played on the '83 ISGC by Jeff Newman
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Mike Vallandigham


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Martinez, CA
Post  Posted 13 Sep 2019 7:40 am    
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These Klines are awesome. Thanks for posting, guys!
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Sonny Jenkins


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New Braunfels, Tx. 78130
Post  Posted 13 Sep 2019 10:06 am    
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Highly modified Williams,,,
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