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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 10:36 am    
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Andy Volk wrote:
...Interestingly, a videographer friend of mine worked backstage at a Stones concert about three years ago. There was a guy backstage who sounded identical to Mick doubling all his vocals live. Not surprising as Mick is an old man!

What?! Really?!😳
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 11:03 am    
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Jim Cohen wrote:
Andy Volk wrote:
...Interestingly, a videographer friend of mine worked backstage at a Stones concert about three years ago. There was a guy backstage who sounded identical to Mick doubling all his vocals live. Not surprising as Mick is an old man!

What?! Really?!😳

Ditto. Either this is blasphemy or the world is ending.
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 11:28 am    
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Fred Treece wrote:
Jim Cohen wrote:
Andy Volk wrote:
...Interestingly, a videographer friend of mine worked backstage at a Stones concert about three years ago. There was a guy backstage who sounded identical to Mick doubling all his vocals live. Not surprising as Mick is an old man!

What?! Really?!😳

Ditto. Either this is blasphemy or the world is ending.


This way the Stones have more integrity than the twenty-somethings who just lip-synch to a recording, and click the Play button on a DAW.
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 11:30 am    
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That's a pretty low bar for integrity, IMHO, Earnest.
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Jack Hanson


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 11:37 am    
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Not a surprise to me. Sir Mick's shtick has always been dancing and prancing around like a banty rooster and making funny faces, not singing.

This performance at the Long Beach Auditorium on their first tour of North America in 1964 should help demonstrate that assertion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUbWAzQszNY
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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 11:44 am    
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Disregard my last post.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 12:07 pm    
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John Lennon didn't think much of the Stones... he said β€œI resent the implication that the Stones are like revolutionaries and that the Beatles weren’t. They are not in the same class, music-wise or power-wise, and never were.”

Lennon said the Stones were "a joke" and he used a homophobic slur to describe Jaggers dance moves. Shocked
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Jack Hanson


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 12:26 pm    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
Lennon said the Stones were "a joke" and he used a homophobic slur to describe Jaggers dance moves. Shocked

Always wondered where Mel Brooks came up with the classic Slim Pickens line in Blazing Saddles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQA003PutmE
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Roger Rettig


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 12:28 pm    
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Ouch, Doug - really? I didn't know that. Aside, perhaps, from the homophobic slur, though, he was correct.

And I agree with Jim - bringing a singer to cover your vocals is a bit rum, especially at the prices I'm told they charge. I wouldn't cross the street to see them.

Maybe I'll get the call to replicate his dance moves. Whoa!
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 12:40 pm    
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I wouldn't cross the street to see them.


That brings back memories for me... One of the first country bands I played with, back in the mid-70s, the singer would say "I wouldn't cross the street to see a rock band!" 😁
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 12:43 pm    
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Roger Rettig wrote:
Ouch, Doug - really? I didn't know that.


You can hear him sing it right here on Genius Is Pain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVDpPX37fkU
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Jack Hanson


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2019 12:44 pm    
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Ha! I used to tell my friends that if the Stones were playing in the driveway, I'd call the sheriff. Of course I was severely reprimanded for expressing an honest opinion.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 3 Sep 2019 5:06 am    
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Jack Hanson wrote:
The sad part of it is, the average Rollin' Stones fan who accepts the "Greatest Rock & Roll Band In The History Of The World" mantra, also likely believes Woody is the best pedal steel player in the world.



Not Jerry Garcia? Whoa!
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Curt Trisko


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Post  Posted 3 Sep 2019 5:55 am    
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Curt Trisko wrote:
I see this kind of steel playing as an absolute win. A song by a band this popular is more likely to get people to play covers of it... and if they want that steel, they have to call on us. And when they call on us, these parts are easy to learn and we can dazzle them by doing it cleaner and better than on the recordings.



I did just that about a year ago with a Led Zeppelin cover. Jimmy Page did the steel on the recording, and it was pitchy and rudimentary. We played it in a beautiful venue with a full audience:


https://youtu.be/SyORFbr_-To



The post I made in this thread on Friday only showed up as a blank space for some reason. It looks like the conversation has since moved on, but here's what I wrote.
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Joe Goldmark


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Post  Posted 4 Sep 2019 9:31 pm    
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IMO The Stones & Beatles were fab. Sure their early recordings were rough, but they quickly became terrific songwriters, performers and interpreters of American music. I totally get Roger's perspective, as I've felt that way about many bands that came along (Talking Heads live) because i was judging them from a technical musical standpoint. But we really ultimately have to judge them on their recorded output; the songs that became part of our lives.

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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 5 Sep 2019 8:04 am    
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Either this is blasphemy or the world is ending.


I wasn't there but this is what I was told by my friend whom I have no reason to doubt. Very, very few people can sing in their 70s with the power and control they had in their 20s so they are preserving the magic for an audience that wants to believe.
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J Fletcher


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Post  Posted 6 Sep 2019 7:32 am    
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I'm with Joe Goldmark on this. The Stones and Beatles were huge for me , when I was growing up . I think the Stones pretty much said everything they were going to say by the mid 70's , but how can you fault them for keeping at it. Not like they have anything better to do.
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Don R Brown


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Post  Posted 6 Sep 2019 7:57 am    
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Jack Hanson wrote:
Not a surprise to me. Sir Mick's shtick has always been dancing and prancing around like a banty rooster


I heard tell that once in a while, Mick puts on a disguise, changes his name, and does a country song or two. But his moves always give him away. Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG-2cM0ftkA

(Truth be told, other than the lack of a steel, I like that version. Flame suit is on, blast away! Laughing )
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