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Topic: Rolling Stones with pedal steel |
Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 11:49 am |
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Which one is he?
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Jerry Horch
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Alva, Florida, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 2:23 pm Ronnie Wood
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I Can't knock Ron Wood.His slide guitar on the early days with the Small Faces,and Rod Stewart and the Faces is pretty good stuff.Gasiline Alley and such.....saw them live in the early 70's and they kicked it real good....a little before Duane Allman took over the throne...saw him too, and now Derrick Trucks...
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Duncan Hodge
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 4:05 pm
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I remember being a wee lad of 21 in 1978 when I first heard this song. I loved it and I still love the song. At that time, and being only a guitar player who was totally under the spell of Gram Parsons, I was so impressed with the Stones playing straight up country. I didn’t know that Ron was not a good steel player... I still don’t care. It was a good/great song and I still sing it today.
Have a beautiful evening wherever you are and send any good vibes to me tomorrow when I try to start my generator for the first time in two years before the hurricane arrives.
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Jack Hanson
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 4:26 pm
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The sad part of it is, the average Rollin' Stones fan who accepts the "Greatest Rock & Roll Band In The History Of The World" mantra, also likely believes Woody is the best pedal steel player in the world.
Truth be told, even Pee Wee Herman would sound pretty good if he had the likes of Darryl Jones and Chuck Leavell backing him up. |
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Don R Brown
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Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 5:06 pm
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First link cracks me up - Charlie Watts always acted so bored and laid-back.
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Rich Gardner
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Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 6:21 pm
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I don't think this is very cool to be ripping on someone's playing ability. I always thought we supported players no matter their skill level. I suspect a bit of jealousy. This band has produced music that has been enjoyed by thousands of fans for decades. If you can't say something nice, it might be better to say nothing.
Just my 2 cents. |
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Don R Brown
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Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 7:22 pm
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| Rich Gardner wrote: |
| This band has produced music that has been enjoyed by millions of fans for decades. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Paul Sutherland
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Placerville, California
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 9:35 pm
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The Stones would be major rock stars whether or not RW played the PSG on a couple tracks. To me it shows a lack of respect for the instrument to play it in public or on recordings when your skill level is so low. He, and the rest of the Stones, have to know how out of tune he is. It's almost as if they don't think of PSG are a real musical instrument. It's just a joke.
I guess it doesn't pay to take oneself too seriously.
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Last edited by Paul Sutherland on 29 Aug 2019 10:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Earnest Bovine
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Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2019 10:16 pm
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| The Stones are better than they sound. |
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Don R Brown
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Rochester, New York, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2019 3:42 am
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I didn't see a date on that, but judging by their faces it was relatively early in their career. (Ron Wood replaced Brian Jones, so that would put him into the band roughly 1970).
I suspect many of the players we consider monsters today didn't sound much better than that 40 or 50 years back. The difference is Ron Wood has not spent the intervening years focused on improving his PSG skills.
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Mark Eaton
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Posted 29 Aug 2019 3:55 am
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To keep our Stones history straight, Woody replaced Mick Taylor around 1975 after being a member of Faces.
Brian Jones died in 1969.
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Don R Brown
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Posted 29 Aug 2019 4:09 am
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Thanks Mark, I stand corrected.
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Curt Trisko
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Posted 29 Aug 2019 7:40 am
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| Jack Hanson wrote: |
The sad part of it is, the average Rollin' Stones fan who accepts the "Greatest Rock & Roll Band In The History Of The World" mantra, also likely believes Woody is the best pedal steel player in the world.
Truth be told, even Pee Wee Herman would sound pretty good if he had the likes of Darryl Jones and Chuck Leavell backing him up. |
IMHO, the ultimate measure isn't how good of a steel player they are. It's how effective they are. When you think about it that way, there's nothing controversial about an excellent musician being a more effective steel player than the rest of us dedicated steelers.[/i][/b] |
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Mike Bacciarini
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Arizona
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Posted 29 Aug 2019 8:32 am
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I pick up so many tips and techniques here on the forum.... I'm gonna have to try Robert Stewart Johnson's use of a beer can for a bar. Looks bigger than 15/16" though.
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Jack Hanson
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Posted 29 Aug 2019 9:22 am
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| Mike Bacciarini wrote: |
| I pick up so many tips and techniques here on the forum.... I'm gonna have to try Robert Stewart Johnson's use of a beer can for a bar. Looks bigger than 15/16" though. |
Works great for achieving a banjo sound. Best when either full or empty. (Don't ask how I know.) |
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Dave Hopping
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Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 29 Aug 2019 10:13 am
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Ronnie's just plateau'd at a fairly elementary level.If he'd have worked on it he'd have gained more skills.The same could be said of Don Felder,Bernie Leadon,and the most widely heard steel player on Earth,who doubtless taught a lot of folks' children from a studio track he did as a sideman in someone else's band.As with a multitude of players,those guys' day jobs got in the way of their steel playing!  |
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Duncan Hodge
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DeLand, FL USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2019 3:31 pm
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Amen, Brother Dave.
And, let’s hear one more time from another allegedly incompetent pedal steeler who maybe made us smile.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AYX4peMHdMY
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