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Topic: Interesting interview |
Barry Blackwood
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Fred Treece
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 8:16 am |
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| Thanks for the link, Barry. An excellent interview of a very insightful young recording artist. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 8:35 am
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There's a book called Hillbilly Elegy from 2016. I started to read but layed it away after a few pages. I will take it up again. But one thing I remember is that it mentions the Dwight Yoakam song Route 23:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS8zCFN1h1g
The song attached is great btw!
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Fred Treece
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 8:59 am
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| The interview made me think of that song, Joachim. I guess there was more to it than I thought. I used to sing it in one of my barroom bands. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 9:19 am
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Fred is the pronunciation of route correct, or is it only the local dialect?
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Bill Sinclair
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Waynesboro, PA, USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 10:18 am
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| Joachim Kettner wrote: |
| Fred is the pronunciation of route correct, or is it only the local dialect? |
Good question! If you're Nat King Cole, it's "Root" 66. If you're Dwight Yoakam it's "Rawt" 23. I grew up using and hearing both interchangeably. Whatever regional application it once had has been blurred through the magic of radio and television. |
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Fred Treece
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 10:56 am
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| Bill Sinclair wrote: |
| Joachim Kettner wrote: |
| Fred is the pronunciation of route correct, or is it only the local dialect? |
Good question! If you're Nat King Cole, it's "Root" 66. If you're Dwight Yoakam it's "Rawt" 23. I grew up using and hearing both interchangeably. Whatever regional application it once had has been blurred through the magic of radio and television. |
It is a good question. I’ve heard that it’s an “east of the Mississippi†thing to say “rout†vs “rootâ€. That could be, but I think it’s more localized than that.
Growing up in a one-generation-removed Ohio farm family, I had only ever heard “routâ€.
So it may be a rural vs urban pronunciation. In the rural farm country, certain roads used to be known as “rural routesâ€. Maybe they still are in some places. And nobody ever pronounced it “Rural Root 23â€. And as kids, my brothers and I had paper routes, not roots. Roots are where you get potatoes and beets... |
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 2:53 pm
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Funny. Thanks!
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Craig Stock
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Westfield, NJ USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 5:24 pm
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Its because Dwight is from Ohio, and then Kentucky and root is pronounced rut, also creek is crick, and roof is ruff. I could go on. Just a different dialect, makes this country great!
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Mitch Drumm
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Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 8:30 pm
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[quote="Fred Treece"]
| Bill Sinclair wrote: |
| Joachim Kettner wrote: |
| Fred is the pronunciation of route correct, or is it only the local dialect? |
............I’ve heard that it’s an “east of the Mississippi†thing to say “rout†vs “rootâ€. That could be, but I think it’s more localized than that.........
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It must be quite localized. I grew up hearing both in the western US.
I just listened to an interview with Bobby Troup in which he talked about his song "Route 66". He spent the first 20 years of his life in Pennsylvania and he says "root" when using the word in ordinary speech.
He recorded the song at least 4 times, and in 2 of the 4 he playfully uses the "rowt" pronunciation.
I suppose if Bobby had been raised elsewhere, Nat Cole might have sung "rowt 66"??
Troup had it only half written when he pitched it to Nat Cole at the Trocadero club in LA in 1946, just 6 days after arriving in LA from Pennsylvania to see if he could make it as a writer--after 5 years in the Marines. Nat vowed then and there to record it after Bobby finished it.
I think the sheer popularity of that song may itself have caused the "root" pronunciation to be more common than it otherwise would have been, but you still aren't going to hear someone sing Hank's song as "I left my home down down on the rural root and told my pa I'm goin' steppin' ooot and lose these Honky Tonk Blues." |
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Barry Blackwood
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Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Posted 3 Aug 2019 8:41 am
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At least I've been reading the article, if this is meant by you with this.
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 3 Aug 2019 9:04 am
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The just released Tyler Childers album Country Squire is co-produced by Sturgill Simpson.
Prominent on the record is Russ Pahl on pedal steel and several other instruments, along with the amazing Stuart Duncan.
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 3 Aug 2019 9:08 am
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| I thought the etymology side trip was very well suited to the OP. The soul of a culture is it’s language. The nuance and regional dialect lended to it by songwriters like Tyler Childers is exactly what he is talking about when he says, “It was like, why am I trying to find my voice?†Childers says. “I am blessed to be in a place that has its own.†|
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