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Topic: HELP!! Tuning NIGHTMARE!!!! |
Robbie Bossert
From:
WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A.
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Posted 22 Apr 2019 11:53 am |
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This in on a Fesseden D-10. 4 th string (E) when trying to raise to an F# with the C pedal. I tune it open. The F# is flat. I back off a bit on the open to get F# close to where it needs to be and the E is sharp. I backed the nust all the way out and retuned gradually but to no avail. I notice too that when tuning at the bridge, it's raising my open string and I don't recall that ever being an issue before.
I checked the rollers for binding but it was all clear. I checked the undercarriage to see if anything was hung up but it seems to be fine... I'm out ideas guys... Any suggestions?
Robbie Bossert
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Emmons LeGrande III Pedal Steel. '54 Gibson lap steel, Peavey Nashville 1000, Nashville 400, Telecaster,Banjo, Peavey Power slide Lap Steels ,Effects, and other assorted crap..... |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 22 Apr 2019 12:04 pm
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| Ideas? Yup, string gauge wrong (too light) or not enough movement of the pull rod. If the string is the correct gauge, either change the pull rod to a hole farther from the axle, or adjust the stop to increase the throw of the cross shaft. |
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Robbie Bossert
From:
WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A.
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Posted 22 Apr 2019 2:05 pm
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Hey Donny,
Thanks for the input... I use SIT Emmons Signature Series strings. It's a 14 gauge string. I did move the rod down one hole lower at the bridge because it right up against the F lever rod to the point where I could barely get the tuning wrenct on the nuts..... What gauge do some of you other guys out there use on your 4th string...??
Thanks Again Donny
Robbie
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Emmons LeGrande III Pedal Steel. '54 Gibson lap steel, Peavey Nashville 1000, Nashville 400, Telecaster,Banjo, Peavey Power slide Lap Steels ,Effects, and other assorted crap..... |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 22 Apr 2019 2:53 pm
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Robbie - Read Jon Light's "sticky" about overtuning.
It's on the top of the Pedal Steel page.
That may be your problem.
An .014 is the correct gauge for that string. |
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Robbie Bossert
From:
WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A.
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Posted 23 Apr 2019 5:25 am
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Donny-Changed the gauge and that did seem to help a bit.
Lee- Went through the steps on Jon's fantastic and informative article on the subject and that seems to have done the trick...
Thanks again guys........
Robbie
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Emmons LeGrande III Pedal Steel. '54 Gibson lap steel, Peavey Nashville 1000, Nashville 400, Telecaster,Banjo, Peavey Power slide Lap Steels ,Effects, and other assorted crap..... |
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J Fletcher
From:
London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 23 Apr 2019 2:05 pm
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| Glad it's sorted out. You do realize that moving the pull rod into a lower hole caused the problem , right? |
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Robbie Bossert
From:
WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A.
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Posted 24 Apr 2019 5:13 pm
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J,
No I didn't realize that because I've been playing this guitar for over 2 years without any issue. This came on quick brother! Playing like a charm now so I'll be prepared shoud this happen again...
Robbie
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Emmons LeGrande III Pedal Steel. '54 Gibson lap steel, Peavey Nashville 1000, Nashville 400, Telecaster,Banjo, Peavey Power slide Lap Steels ,Effects, and other assorted crap..... |
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J Fletcher
From:
London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 25 Apr 2019 5:37 am
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| Excellent. If you move any rods to different holes in the changer again , you will probably run into the problem again. The different holes have different amounts of leverage. Can't tell from your response if you understand that. |
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