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Topic: Some people think Richie Valens played Sleep Walk! |
Butch Mullen
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North Carolina, USA 28681
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Posted 9 Feb 2019 4:32 pm |
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2019 4:51 pm
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| Butch Mullen wrote: |
| Who is at fault, the student or the teacher??? |
Can of worms times a thousand. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2019 10:32 am
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| The schools don’t stress history and geography as much as they used to, from what I’ve read. |
Not to mention art and music - including art and music history. |
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Frank Welsh
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Upstate New York, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2019 10:56 am
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I was in a music shop noodling with a standard guitar and playing some chord melodies to get the feel of it when a 17 year old approached me and said "You're playing melodies on the guitar." He thought only "licks" could be played on guitar.
I engaged him in conversation about music and found out that:
- he never heard of the Big Band Era or the names Glen Miller, Benny Goodman or the Dorsey Brothers;
- he never heard of the "Roaring Twenties" and the popularity of jazz and dixieland;
- he did not know what decade WWII took place in and
- he did not know what half-century the American Civil War took place in.
He was clearly a middle-class kid who attended a local public high school and seemed friendly and articulate but almost entirely devoid of knowledge.
This conversation took place about 30 years ago and I suspect things are much worse these days. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Mitch Drumm
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Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 10 Feb 2019 1:39 pm
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As I understand it, a lot of school districts are abandoning textbooks.
The student is issued (or supplies his own?) Chromebook, which connects to Google on the Internet.
Google provides the curriculum, I assume with some input from the school district or state.
The student interacts with Google and uploads assignments and examinations to Google, where they are graded and returned.
I'm unclear on what the "teacher", pardon the expression, does anymore.
What could possibly go wrong?
I haven't been in a K through 12 classroom in many decades. Have pens, pencils, and paper been totally abandoned and it's entirely keyboard based, from Kindergarten forward? No handwriting at all? |
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2019 7:00 pm
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| Mitch Drumm wrote: |
| I'm unclear on what the "teacher", pardon the expression, does anymore. |
The main job is to make sure that one kid doesn’t code his way through the porn-surfing safeties and send it to everyone in the school. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Bill Leff
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Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2020 7:47 am
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Is it just me or does anyone else get that shot of adrenalin from fear on the gig during the intro right before attempting to hit the first harmonic slide? I’ve flubbed it more than a few times  |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2020 8:25 am
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| When I lived in South Minneapolis, I thought you needed a canoe to cross Lake Street. |
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Nic Neufeld
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Kansas City, Missouri
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Posted 14 Dec 2020 3:00 pm
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| Bill Leff wrote: |
| Is it just me or does anyone else get that shot of adrenalin from fear on the gig during the intro right before attempting to hit the first harmonic slide? I’ve flubbed it more than a few times |
Me too! It helps with my frypan though, long scale and endless sustain seem to help with that stuff!
Now...that four note harmonic took some work, but the one where sustain seems to run out of gas is the outro to Santo and Johnny's cover of A Thousand Miles Away:
https://youtu.be/kkLEH9pJLdk?t=161
G - A - B - D - C - B - A - B all in one harmonic strike! Even my Clinesmith starts to trail away there, Santo must have hit that harmonic strong...
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2020 9:47 pm
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I occasionally was a musical guest on a local TV show. The host played guitar and we would banter and play a song or two. One show I did was to trace the history of steel guitar. I carried my dobro, my Ric, my Fender console and my pedal steel. He politely acknowledged as I played pieces thru the years on the period correct instruments. When I got to "Sleepwalk" on the Fender, he got all excited and said, "I never knew it was a steel guitar that played that tune."
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Nic Neufeld
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Kansas City, Missouri
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Posted 31 Dec 2020 11:13 am
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Maybe its actually just us forum members playing a practical joke on you! Next up "That version of Apache was great! Almost as good as Dick Dale's original!"
Just kidding! (And of course, to slightly modify Hanlon's Razor...never attribute to grand conspiracy what can adequately be explained by general public ignorance!)
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Posted 12 Nov 2023 12:50 pm
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Here we are... three years later and a new wrinkle has developed in the revisionism of Ritchie Valens & Sleep Walk. Recent commenters on my YT channel have claimed that they were listening to Sleep Walk on the radio in 1959 when they heard news of the plane crash that killed Ritchie Valens and Buddy Holly. They're confusing the ending of the movie "La Bamba" with the actual facts. The plane went down several months before Sleep Walk was released. No one had heard the song at the time of the crash. It hadn't even been recorded yet.   D@mn that movie! 
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Miles Lang
From:
Venturaloha
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Posted 16 Nov 2023 3:33 pm
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| Doug Beaumier wrote: |
| Here we are... three years later and a new wrinkle has developed in the revisionism of Ritchie Valens & Sleep Walk. Recent commenters on my YT channel have claimed that they were listening to Sleep Walk on the radio in 1959 when they heard news of the plane crash that killed Ritchie Valens and Buddy Holly. They're confusing the ending of the movie "La Bamba" with the actual facts. The plane went down several months before Sleep Walk was released. No one had heard the song at the time of the crash. It hadn't even been recorded yet. D@mn that movie! |
Serves us right for not doing the math!
We often play Sleep Walk in the San Fernando Valley, Ritchie’s hometown and final resting place. We, of course, announce it as the finest piece of island music from the Hudson Archipelago, known for the islands of Long, Staten, Coney, and…..Manhattan. We make a big deal about announcing it as a Santo & Johnny tune, because many people know the melody, but have no idea what it is.
Just before that last harmonic run on my old Stringmaster, we will frequently shout out “Ritchie” like Rosanna DeSoto did in the movie. Sometimes folks jump in, and they seem to like it. One night, at an outdoor party, we did that bit and I heard a gang of voices in the dark shout, “What about Bob?” Scared me to death,
It’s all fun, but we try to educate our audiences on the song. I feel we all owe that to S&J to keep it alive. This is one of the amazing melodies of the 20th Century.
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Santo Fan Club - from the island of Coney to the sands of Rockaway
Jill Martini & The Shrunken Heads
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Doug Beaumier
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