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Bill McCloskey


Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 8:26 am    
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Great thing about the eharp tuning is that it opens up new worlds of classical music. I'm currently working on Bach's Cello Suite #1 and it lays out perfectly on the eharp tuning.

Anyone else playing classical pieces?
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Bill Hatcher


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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 1:15 pm    
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i recorded this bach piece a few years ago. 14 string. I did it for a personal challenge and posted it here, but I doubt if many remember it. its not perfect, but its mostly there. you do bach the way you want to. he would not mind.
the chaconne for violin. maybe one of the greatest pieces of music ever written.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGIx2VTfidw
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Bill McCloskey


Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 1:29 pm    
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That is beautiful Bill.
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 1:34 pm    
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Bill Hatcher wrote:
chaconne for violin. maybe one of the greatest pieces of music ever written.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGIx2VTfidw


This is the best steel guitar performance on YouTube. And with no pedals. I guess pedals are a gimmick, a passing fad.
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 1:39 pm    
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Bill Hatcher wrote:
i recorded this bach piece a few years ago. 14 string. I did it for a personal challenge and posted it here, but I doubt if many remember it. its not perfect, but its mostly there. you do bach the way you want to. he would not mind.
the chaconne for violin. maybe one of the greatest pieces of music ever written.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGIx2VTfidw

What an incredible effort, what an amazing result. Hats off!
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 1:51 pm    
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I remember it Bill. I watch it often. Great job. I know it's a bit of topic drift, but I also watch the Bohemian Rhapsody video with the same guitar. Unbelievable.
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Bill Hatcher


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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 2:11 pm    
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I thank you guys so much. I have not played that guitar in years. after listening to that again, I need to find some time and explore some more music on it. something Brazilian seems like a good thought. I have a couple of other classical pieces I did on 10, 12 and 14 stringlap steels. I will see if I can find a link to them. bill M. the bach you are working on is fabulous. I look forward to hearing what you play. seems like I incorporated some of the alkire tuning along with some Leavitt tuning when I came up with the 14 string tuning you hear. basically its some 1/2 steps in the upper strings to help with playing melodic things.
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Bill McCloskey


Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 3:22 pm    
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It is meeting a lot of things I want to work on: working on it improves my sight reading, I learned a lot transposing and figuring out the best key to play it in for the eharp, and I've gotten a lot of practice using the bass clef, something I never really paid attention to before.

Plus, just practicing it, I get the benefit Bach intended: it is a great piece to work on your fingers, speed, accuracy, tone, touch as you have fun playing it.
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Bill Hatcher


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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 4:27 pm    
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Bill McCloskey wrote:
It is meeting a lot of things I want to work on: working on it improves my sight reading, I learned a lot transposing and figuring out the best key to play it in for the eharp, and I've gotten a lot of practice using the bass clef, something I never really paid attention to before.

Plus, just practicing it, I get the benefit Bach intended: it is a great piece to work on your fingers, speed, accuracy, tone, touch as you have fun playing it.



a tip I use for the bass clef. I basically...no pun...transpose it to the treble clef..lol! if I see the first space...I just look up one space and there is A in the treble clef. first line...I just look at the next line...theres your G in the treble clef.


just remember...bachs sons said that he had a great effect on the feelings of people. bach told his students to play chorales and other music that had words and make the music bring the words to life and describe them. you see so many of his motifs in his music that provide description to the subject he is writing for. a mystery word in the german baroque era is "affect". nobody really know what it means, but it had to do with the style of playing that encompassed everything from tempos to ornamentation to expression to whatever. the music of bach is universal to all times, because it can be played any way you want to play it. its just pure music...playable on virtually any instrument.
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Bill Hatcher


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Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 4:31 pm    
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Bill McCloskey wrote:
It is meeting a lot of things I want to work on: working on it improves my sight reading, I learned a lot transposing and figuring out the best key to play it in for the eharp, and I've gotten a lot of practice using the bass clef, something I never really paid attention to before.

Plus, just practicing it, I get the benefit Bach intended: it is a great piece to work on your fingers, speed, accuracy, tone, touch as you have fun playing it.



a tip I use for the bass clef. I basically...no pun...transpose it to the treble clef..lol! if I see the first space...I just look up one space and there is A in the treble clef. first line...I just look at the next line...theres your G in the treble clef.


just remember...bachs sons said that he had a great effect on the feelings of people. bach told his students to play chorales and other music that had words and make the music bring the words to life and describe them. you see so many of his motifs in his music that provide description to the subject he is writing for. a mystery word in the german baroque era is "affect". nobody really know what it means, but it had to do with the style of playing that encompassed everything from tempos to ornamentation to expression to whatever. the music of bach is universal to all times, because it can be played any way you want to play it. its just pure music...playable on virtually any instrument.
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Bill McCloskey


Post  Posted 13 Jan 2019 6:02 pm    
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Yeah, I do the same transposition trick for the bass clef. I'm trying to train myself to see without doing that, but I'm not there yet.

yeah me an Bach go way back. One of my earliest records was switched on bach, and the first time I heard Gould play the Goldberg Variations, it was literally a life altering moment. A few years ago I bought the complete bach, one of those 100 disk or so compilations. Not all the definitive performances, but it is nice to have a complete collection to supplement the complete Gould, also a monster collection.

When I came to new York in the 80's to be a painter, I had a one man show based on Goldberg's Variations. 32 paintings, variations on a womans face, each 30 inches to match the 30 variations plus the arias, and every 10th painting was a black canvas that integrated a different name of someone who played the Goldberg varations. There was a G painting, a O painting, a L painting, etc. It was pretty wild. Ah the 80's in New York. Here is the "O" painting.


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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 14 Jan 2019 4:16 am    
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The chaconne was supremely beautiful, Bill.
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Steve Atwood


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Post  Posted 14 Jan 2019 7:42 pm    
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Here's my best effort Bill, on one of Bill Hatcher's 12-strings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps5n2-Ubh0w

I was in over my head trying to play classical, now I'm into Hawaiian Slack Key.
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Bill McCloskey


Post  Posted 14 Jan 2019 7:48 pm    
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Steve, that was great. I love those low bass chords. Sounds just like an organ. Well Done! I love that piece.
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Bill Hatcher


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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2019 8:51 am    
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Steve Atwood wrote:
Here's my best effort Bill, on one of Bill Hatcher's 12-strings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps5n2-Ubh0w

I was in over my head trying to play classical, now I'm into Hawaiian Slack Key.



wonderful to see a video of you playing that guitar that we collaborated on! that's a lot of potential in front of you!!! nice sound.
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Steve Atwood


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Post  Posted 15 Jan 2019 2:58 pm     Bach Bourree tab for 8-string lap
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Bill and Bill your comments are very encouraging. Maybe I'll try this piece again on the 12-string, which I couldn't quite get on my 8-string. It's a lot of fun to play. Here's a tab I made a while ago:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=2801957#2801957
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