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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 25 Nov 2018 1:38 pm    
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https://youtu.be/uuakQMS0uWg

Is this a piano intro/turnaround on this Eddie Rabbit tune? If so, what kind? Rhodes, Wurly, Grand, octave? Is there another instrument mixed with it?

I've gone through my GM mix of pianos and haven't found anything to duplicate it. I've been doing it on steel, but would like to get the part more authentic and on piano.

Discogs.com credits Hargus "Pig" Robbins with piano on the '77 LP.

Thanks.
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Skip Edwards

 

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Post  Posted 25 Nov 2018 10:12 pm    
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Jerry, it doesn't sound like any of those to me. Might be a synth doing that staccato part. It's almost what a marimba would play...Maybe they didn't want it to sound like Margaritaville. (which came out the same year).
1977? Hmm... that's pre-MIDI, DX7, etc. On second listening, maybe it's a muted guitar.
I hear acoustic piano in there...that would be Pig. My hero.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2018 4:03 am    
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Not a Wurlitzer or Rhodes, mostly like a synthesis of marimba and maybe a little string sound. There are synthetic strings as well. Synthesizer.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2018 7:55 am    
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He plays clavinet and moog on this solo record
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2018 7:59 am    
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Yes, I also thought I heard a marimba like sound.

I missed the synth in the credits though. Shane Keister is listed there. He plays many keyboard instruments including Synclavier.

Strings are listed by David Briggs as well.

Well, I'll have to go through my midi sound module again and look for that sound when I get time. There's a chromatic section and 3 large banks of synth sounds. A lot to sample.

Thank you Skip and Charlie.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2018 8:03 am    
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Didn't see your reply Joachim. Thanks for your detective work and input as well.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2018 8:05 am    
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Skip is right!
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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2018 8:05 am    
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 26 Nov 2018 8:56 am    
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....thinking I'll try the old broom handle or flat bar trick on the pedal steel Idea Laughing
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Godfrey Arthur

 

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Post  Posted 28 Nov 2018 8:41 am    
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Sounds like a synth patch and/or overdubs. It's not a clavinet, definitely not a Wurli or Rhodes.

If a synth was used circa 1977 polyphonic synths were non existent to the mortal man. The Synclavier was polyphonic in the 70's and sold to institutions.

In 1977 this is what the Synclavier looked like:


You might get close combining a piano with a steel drum patch, maybe some guitar patch and mix the two/three to where the piano is dominant.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 28 Nov 2018 11:30 am    
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Thanks Godfrey. I have found a sound that's really, really close in the Chromatic section of my Alesis sound module. It's a variation of a Xylophone patch named Steelophon. It's very close to what I hear on the recording. I believe it will work very well in a stage setting on the keyboard midi rig.

I'm also experimenting with unusual types of bar material for pedal steel for when not using the midi stuff.

The broom handle is almost too dead and weak. I also have an aluminum bar that's better but not muted enough. I'm looking for a plastic material or something like the old Match Bro bar to accent the attack but calm the sustain.
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